Speaker 1 0:13

hey guys, john mcnamara host ron in vegas. We're talking local business sports real estate.

Speaker 2 0:19

My co-host, mr rodrigo, yeah, thank you. Always happy to be here and for everyone watching, listening. Please like what you see, subscribe, drop us a comment, let us know how we're doing, share with your friends, family, to anyone that you think this might be a service to.

Speaker 1 0:38

Yes, sir, please like us, and we got a special guest on today, mr Chris Han, broker owner, insight property, thanks for being on absolutely.

Speaker 3 0:49

Thanks for the invite I was uh you know, never meet a realtor doesn't like talk about themselves.

Speaker 2 0:54

So here I am you must be talking about rodrigo over here I know it's nice to finally meet you because, uh yeah, your name comes around often, you know, through all the transactions, deals, all the business, and nice to finally put a name, a face and a name.

Speaker 3 1:08

Communicate a lot of agents. I wear a lot of hats because I'm sure I'll find out through this process, so a lot of emails and text messages. They don't let me out of my cave very often.

Speaker 1 1:17

Yeah, I'm excited to have you on because I'm curious about all of it, because you do run a lot of hats and not a lot of folks can be successful with that and it seems like you're having a lot of success. So can you tell us about where you're, from, your background? How did you get into all this?

Speaker 3 1:37

Oh boy, I was born in Southern California because everyone who lives here who isn't?

Speaker 3 1:41

But I moved here in 2002. So this is pretty much home to me. I've been here a long time. Um, I worked with a real estate agent as an assistant coffee runner when I was 18 years old. Uh, saw how much all the agents were making and thought I can do that, um, as many do, and I mainly uh got my real estate license in 2010, so a june 2010. So really rough time to enter the market. But I told a lot of people, if you can do it in 2008, 2009, 2010, you'll probably be okay. Worked on a team. I kind of wore a lot of hats then too. Worked with buyers, sellers Short sales was a big thing, noticed. I really liked the organization and paperwork side of things, so kind of moved in a lot to the admin side. So I ran teams, set up systems, organizations and still wore that realtor hat by kind of knowing both sides, not just the administrative side, but knowing how transaction really worked. Okay, cool great.

Speaker 1 2:39

Yeah, it seems like that's your strength, and I didn't realize that you got licensed in 2010. Yes, I got licensed september 15th, uh, 2009 oh yeah, so we got licensed around the same time. That was fun.

Speaker 3 2:54

Tell us about that I kind of like to go back because as I'm sure you've been here for the last two years.

Speaker 1 2:59

Everybody keeps talking about how hard the real estate market is. Yeah, but if you were experiencing that market, give us some comparison, kind of give us shed some light for agents who have been in the business for like five years.

Speaker 3 3:11

It's really been a polar opposite from what we saw in 2008, 2009, and 2010,. Right, Super high inventory, plenty of options, sellers negotiating banks giving away anything they could to get rid of their property. So coming into the market now, where I mean gosh.

Speaker 3 3:28

We've been under inventory for years you know multiple buyers trying to find a place. Negotiating short sales was very interesting. It was a good book of business, but it was all about being organized and really being aggressive with the banks. I remember sitting in a class with someone the bank manager, essentially of their assets, their REOs, and she goes. I don't think real estate agents realized in that time we didn't know how to process a short sale. So we hired people. We brought on eight, nine, 10 people. They sat in a conference room with one phone and the bank manager said we'd take turns. The phone got passed from person to person.

Speaker 3 4:11

So real estate agents that were processing escrow companies that were processing short sales, I don't think it's all that side of it where it's like you only got to call once every other three days because that's how long it took for that phone to go around the table and everyone take their turn. I think we're much more prepared for that now. Hopefully that's not an issue anymore moving forward, but coming in now it's very different problems, right? Now we're dealing with interest rates. If you represent a buyer now, trying to get into a home is almost just as hard as a seller trying to get out of it in 2000, 2010.

Speaker 1 4:48

Yeah, and then we have these bigger commissions now too, right, because I think our average commission was like 110,000. I remember I had 40 short sale files. I had no idea what the heck I was doing. Hoping the bank would pick up that day, like you're talking about Hoping clients wouldn't call me because I didn't know what was going on the file. You know half the time, you know hoping the bank's doing something.

Speaker 3 5:08

so yeah, long time in between any kind of update which is yeah a long period of time for buyers and sellers yeah, the good news now?

Speaker 1 5:17

I think, yeah, prices are higher or people can still buy and sell. It's different. So, uh, I think we have good problems now if that makes sense so you know, yeah, better problems.

Speaker 3 5:26

I should say I remember getting a call in like 2012 right investor a little bit behind the ball calls me up. I've got ninety thousand dollars cash. What can I get for ninety thousand dollars cash? I said a bmw like those days are over. You're not getting a house for that anymore um so I, literally I was like a car, that's what you're gonna get now for that price.

Speaker 1 5:48

I was getting those calls in like 2017. I remember they were like yeah, I saw they bought this for 40 000. I'm like, yeah, you can't. That's not the market anymore. I'll get those all the time. It's crazy yeah, stout yeah so tell us yeah, let's dive into some of the hats that you wear, big into property management.

Speaker 3 6:08

Yes, I'd say that's probably the biggest focus of my time. It's my primary role as property management. I'm also a broker owner of Insight Property, so I do have some agents. I do some transactions very much on the investment side because of rolling that into property management, so I have a pretty wide experience on how to make an asset really work. I'm a little less of that empathetic person, so the buying a personal home or selling a personal home, I typically deal with what we call those high C personalities that like the details home.

Speaker 3 6:44

I typically deal with what we call those high C personalities that like the details, less emotions, but I'd say property management is number one.

Speaker 3 6:52

And then I do own a transaction coordination business on the side that I started in 2015, actually, and my sister runs that, and I think that's a big part of my success is the people. I mean I can't really do it all. I mean, yes, I'm the front person, yes, I wear a lot of hats, but if it wasn't for my sister and being able to rely on her to run that business and bring me problems, not me having to chase after them my mother is my operations manager for the brokerage, you got a real family business.

Speaker 3 7:23

And one of the owners. So, again, having her really manage the flow and coming to me and saying we need this, we need it now and we need to focus on this, is helpful Because again it's multiple hats and I have the experience, I have the licenses you know, that all this takes.

Speaker 1 7:41

I have a lot of questions now, yeah it opens up conversations.

Speaker 1 7:49

People always are interested. When they start diving in, I'm like, uh, yeah, there's a lot of share, what you feel comfortable with. But how is it? Well, two things. How is it? Because you got a family business, so to speak, you know, and you're not calling it that I am, but yeah, um, how does that work? Like, uh, is that little I know myself working with, with friends and family in the past. That dynamic can be challenging sometimes because it's like in my business mode or my friend mode or my brother mode, whatever it is. How is that Like and how do you deal with that?

Speaker 3 8:22

I would say that on my side I try not to draw my emotions into it too much. Um which I think you know, someone makes a mistake and it's an employee. It's a little easier to have that conversation than a family member having a mistake, but just knowing internally I'm making mistakes too. Like you've got to understand that if they were working for you, we're working for another business. They're operating the same. The only difference is nobody cares about your business succeeding the way family does.

Speaker 3 8:50

And that's really where I've well, at least my family. I guess I shouldn't say that for all families, but that's kind of what started growing. This was, you know, my mother and my sister, and I even joke, I sent my dad something the other day that when I got my license he just became an unpaid employee. He helps do earth repairs, he picks up lock boxes, he's, he does things. Uh, he's very supportive and it's just we get frustrated. Sometimes we have to take a step back.

Speaker 3 9:18

Um I have a very large family. We meet every month for birthday dinners and we never let that kind of draw into it. You know it's real talk.

Speaker 3 9:28

I mean there's times when my sister's like I'm logging off for the day, like I'm all done, and that's okay. It's okay just to understand that you have to allow whether it's a real employee you know, a non-family member employee or a family member to express their emotions like they would with anybody. Yeah, handle them like you would an employee. I would never say something to my sister that I wouldn't say to someone who worked for me. We draw that boundary.

Speaker 1 9:54

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 9:55

Um, but everyone makes mistakes, and I think that's kind of where that frustration comes from. But, they care. You know they're not coming to me being like I made a mistake and it doesn't matter. I've had people work. I'm like that's different. That's harder to me than a family member. Yeah, somebody who works for you, who just doesn't care.

Speaker 2 10:16

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's important to you know, in any business, be able to log off for the rest of it. You know, once you're done for the day business day's over, you're like, hey, I'm logging off and it's also important. I've been part of family business as well and it's important not to bring those problems to the dinner table.

Speaker 3 10:35

Yeah, because I bring the stories. There's lots of property management stories to bring, yeah.

Speaker 2 10:39

I'm like let's not talk any business whatsoever. I want to, you know, hear the personal stories, but definitely not not talking business. Yeah, yeah, creating those boundaries are important.

Speaker 3 10:50

Yeah, and it all comes down to communication.

Speaker 2 10:52

There are days, I mean two days ago I did the same thing.

Speaker 3 10:56

You know, it's like a mother operations manager comes to me, needs me to make decisions and I just said you need to put it off to tomorrow, I'm all done. I'm all done making decisions. I need to sit, I need to focus on some things. I need to get caught up on. I need to do my job, you know right now and my focus on my priorities she's like okay I'm gonna save this. I'm gonna come back to you tomorrow because I need this.

Speaker 1 11:16

But, um, you know, I just step away and it's like yeah well, it's good you have those boundaries, and I like what you said, like, yeah, we all make mistakes at certain points, and family and friends they care the most too, so that shows in the business as well.

Speaker 3 11:31

So, yeah, I've two friends, very close friends, work for me, um, and both of them came to me and was like this is not the role for me.

Speaker 1 11:40

Yeah.

Speaker 3 11:40

I don't, you know, you know, one admitted like I'm I'm making mistakes, cause this is just not my focus.

Role Evolution in Real Estate Management

Speaker 3 11:45

I'm, I'm this personality type, I'm that, and I think it was just that I was going to her and saying, hey, this happened, why, why, like, let's talk about it, and it wasn't just this like abrupt, you know, because that's who lose friends yeah, yeah is just this not treating it well, and I'd hope to say, uh, that those friends that worked for me would come back if that a different role opened up yeah, you know as opposed to some people just aren't fit for every job and it's okay but giving them that option to just say this is not working for me yeah is how you kind of keep those, those friendships, for sure yeah, it's a good point.

Speaker 1 12:19

Yeah, I've noticed that with, like, our business too is like, once you start going to businesses, people you figure out what their strengths are and hey, if there's other roles, it actually sometimes just turns into other opportunities for the business.

Speaker 3 12:30

So yeah, yeah, absolutely good yeah I mean I'm involved from buyer's agent listing, agent work, short sales. I've been executive assistants, director of operations, kind of a brokerage manager right, Helping create compliance systems, protocols, and each time it was like as I grow and as I get better. I've shifted into different roles. So, I think that's the thing too you can keep people down you've got to let them change and evolve and move into other positions, because the animosity and stuff there that you're not valued yeah, is different it's this is this is what you're meant to do, right?

Speaker 3 13:08

that's the worst thing that anyone must be told this is what you should do. This is your personality type.

Speaker 2 13:12

You're limited to this and I've been told that, right, I've been told I'm not a salesperson.

Speaker 3 13:17

Um, I run, you know, back end for some brokerages and if I took my numbers and put them on the board up to those agents, I'd be like fifth in production yeah I'm not. It's not my strength, it's not what I'm getting on the phone doing every day, but being told you can't do something has always made me like watch me.

Speaker 1 13:34

Yeah, with that chip, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 13:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1 13:40

So I have some questions on property management. Yes, because not to make this about us, me and Rodrigo but we have talked about starting a property management business sometime in the future, and I've talked to multiple. That's why I was really excited to have you on today to pick your brain a little bit. And I've talked to multiple. That's why I was really excited to have you on today to pick your brain a little bit, cause I've talked to multiple property managers. Some love it, some would be like I would never do it again. Um, what's your thoughts of somebody was going by, gus, thinking about getting a property management in the future? What's some advice you give to agents or brokers to consider or shed some light?

Speaker 3 14:14

I think it's a really great backbone to a business. So, anybody who asks me. People tell me all the time you're in property management. That's horrible.

Speaker 1 14:23

They get sued all the time I'm like well dishonest ones do so.

Speaker 3 14:27

There's a couple kind of key features you have to know about yourself before you get into it. It's not even so much about systems processes. Are you an emotionally driven person? If you're emotionally driven, it will wear you out. I have to work with you know my mother's not an emotional person necessarily, but I have to let her know sometimes because she helps handle some of the repairs and maintenance requests. It's not your house, right? It's not your responsibility if the AC goes out or the roof leaks. It's not your responsibility if the ac goes out or the roof leaks. It's not your responsibility if the ac goes out and the tenant is now.

Speaker 3 14:58

You know crazy going crazy because they were gonna have to go stay somewhere else. It's 110 degrees outside the lease agreement says we don't have to reimburse them. You know this is the contract.

Speaker 3 15:08

This is black and white. Now we're not not empathetic right to the owners having to pay for something. In fact, we've personally helped them finance, you know, repairs and stuff that help them kind of get that property back turned around. But are you going to get sucked into the emotions? Right? Real estate agents have the same conversation. Your job is to stay impartial and to advise your clients to the best of your ability. If the buyer and the seller don't agree, you getting angry is not gonna fix that situation. Or you getting emotionally involved is not gonna fix that situation. One of the top five most stressful things someone does in their lifetime is buy and sell a house yeah, if you get emotionally involved with the 20, 30, 40 deals a year you're doing, you're not going to make it.

Speaker 1 15:57

Yeah, I mean, you're physically not going to make it.

Speaker 2 15:59

Start losing hair.

Speaker 3 16:03

Property management. Yeah, Say it Just die let's talk about me. It's all about self, let's talk about me.

Speaker 1 16:08

Chris is not going to come back.

Speaker 3 16:09

Man yeah, Are you emotionally involved? You cannot be emotionally involved. Back man, are you emotionally involved? Cannot be emotionally involved. Two is you have to be very black and white. Right, you are managing trust accounts with a lot of money in them. You have to be accountable to that.

Speaker 3 16:24

And talking about you know real estate, penalties and legal issues. The biggest one is commingling funds. You've got to really really good or hire someone who's really really good and put over you know ability to oversee those roles in place. She's my mother. I trust her with my life. I still look at every single thing she does. It's a two-part double check. Just because she may not understand something, maybe. And I have to make sure that you know it's being done to the letter of the law and what is expected of us as realtors. Right, because we have this code of ethics that comes along with our license as well. So not getting too emotionally involved in decisions and having a really solid accounting process to make sure that those funds are going in the right account, the security deposits are getting returned on time, the money's being handled correctly After that, if you run a real estate business.

Speaker 3 17:19

The typical checklists making sure you don't drop the ball on something. I don't think there's too much more legality that comes into play outside of being an agent versus the property manager, other than the funds, the money's got to be airtight.

Speaker 1 17:35

Yeah, yeah, you know yeah, that's what I like about you too, because I know I've called you multiple times to ask for advice on certain situations and you're always very calm. You give me great information. I always appreciate that is uh. I think that's a great broker. That's what I needed. I don't need somebody who's highly emotional. That's just not a fit.

Speaker 1 17:56

If you're an agent out there dealing with a broker like that, don't tolerate that, because it just makes the situation worse, because a lot of times we just need to know the answer, and then we feel good, and then if our manager or our broker, whoever it is, they can give us that information, and calmly now I feel calm, so I know when.

Speaker 3 18:18

I talk to you, I always feel better, so you do a great job of that. So thanks. I've gotten that feedback before. It's like mine as a broker. Now your job is your agents it's making sure that your agents understand what's going on, backing them up if there's an issue. Right, I've had to call other brokers where I mean they're screaming at me I mean just this level of like. It's not even your transaction like how involved.

Speaker 3 18:37

Are you getting in this where I'm like this is either right or wrong. We can have a different opinion, but in the end it's like everyone needs to come down a notch if they're going to make a decision yeah.

Speaker 1 18:48

Yeah, it's mostly ego too when you hear those emotions coming out from other brokers.

Speaker 3 18:53

My favorite is I've been a broker since. When that conversation starts, I'm like, oh great.

Speaker 1 18:58

I've met some brokers who've been in the business 40 years and they don't run good businesses. I'll tell you that I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 19:05

Some are great Experience is always great. It's certainly how you implement it.

Speaker 2 19:12

You've got to make decisions level-headed. You can't make them when you're heated and full of emotions.

Speaker 3 19:19

I'm not human. There's emotions involved and it's just, and it's the same thing right the other day where it's like I need a minute.

Speaker 1 19:29

I'm not going to make that phone call right now.

Speaker 3 19:30

I'm not going to take that phone call right now. Tenants especially the audacity that some of these tenants have. I'm like you're not my client. So, you getting worked up and screaming at me about something when we've done everything we can to address an issue or answer your calls? We answer almost every single call, when someone calls in that's impressive it is something impressive that's not.

Speaker 1 19:56

Why do you even get that feedback from a lot of private managers? Usually you can't hear from them at all because they're scared of those calls. So that's great that you guys address them.

Speaker 3 20:03

They're like sweeping them under the rug. Yeah, that's the last thing that we want to do. Um, and sometimes, you know, my mother and I work pretty close together in the same office and it's ugh so-and-so's calling, like there are those people, but not answering the call is just putting fuel on the fire. Just being able to answer the call, or there's multiple times when she takes a call and says I'm not really, I can't answer that.

Speaker 3 20:26

I'm not the property manager but I can get them on the line and for the tenant to be able to speak with me. Like you said, I kind of de-escalate the situation. I come from it from a very logical standpoint, hopefully, but I don't know how often a tenant can call and get their property manager on the phone within minutes. You're the first one.

Speaker 1 20:43

Within minutes, yeah, so we try.

Speaker 1 20:46

We really do. Yeah, I know because we offer us rent-out property managers. We don't offer property management services in any single way, but we do help out folks get properties rented out and that is one of the things we'll pitch is, hey, we'll offer actually really good customer service to the ability that we can, of course, because a lot of these property managers I can refer them to you. But I've referred property managers in the past and then they get a bad experience, bad taste, and then they reflect it on me because I refer them to that property manager. So that's great to know.

Speaker 3 21:19

Yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 1 21:21

Oh, it's bad.

Speaker 3 21:23

I'd say that it's rough.

Speaker 2 21:26

Yeah, whenever I help a tenant try to apply for a home, it's one out of 15 property managers. Has some common sense.

Speaker 3 21:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:35

Or has you know the will to actually pick up the phone, give you the right information? Seems like a lot of the time. They just want to take on application fees and as many as they want, as many as they can.

Speaker 3 21:47

Yeah, the application process.

Speaker 3 21:49

We refund application fees, oh and I let me know that all the time that I don't keep the application fees unless I physically process the application and it's just one of those things where, when I'm representing a property, we're not cheap. I'm gonna let that out there right now we're not the cheapest property management in town. Some are going for that model. Right, there's nothing wrong. Here's this low fee and we're going to take on this massive portfolio and if it rents, it rents, you know screw the tenant, I mean I'm just being honest, that is their business model.

Speaker 3 22:20

If I start off, oh, I'm going to take 10 applications.

Speaker 1 22:23

I'm not going to return application fees now you're going to move in in the property's not ready. I haven't clearly explained the lease you're just setting yourself up for failure.

Speaker 3 22:36

Just setting your tenant and your owner up for failure isn't easier to answer. The call schedule the showing. Explain all the details you know. Explain the application process. You're gonna apply. We take them in the order we get them. That person doesn't apply, we move on. If they change their mind, we move on to the next. Yeah, we don't get to you. We'll refund the application fee. I haven't spent any time or energy on that. I really haven't. It's one button on my system. Refund and it just sets yourself up for success and long-term tenants.

Speaker 1 23:01

That's good to have that. I like that business model because I know myself, because I've owned multiple investment properties in the past and I've had mostly bad experiences with property managers. I would gladly pay more for good customer service. So the fact that you back that up and you provide both, Do you have tiers for your? I'm just curious. You don't have to detail the numbers, no, you're good. Do you have tiers? I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 23:25

We don't. We have one flat protocol on our management fee and any other fees that go along with that. We keep it all the same. We offer the same level of service. We'll say no if it doesn't meet our criteria Because just like a regular agent working with a client that's never going to close, does you no good? So, working with an owner that's not going to make repairs or put you at risk. It's just as much screening a client as it is taking everyone you can get. So no it's all one structure.

Speaker 2 24:04

It's awesome that you put your peace of mind first. You're peaceful. A lot of us, we, a lot of agents, we get one lead we never even qualify and we're showing them 15 homes and they never even qualified for those homes. You know, yeah, and I can tell you're very, you know, relaxed. So I, you know, I give you a props for that, because they can tell you you must work on your, you know, make mental, uh, mentality. You must. What do you do? Do you read any books? Do you listen to podcasts?

Speaker 1 24:35

what do you do to meditation process that you guys have? I know you start. How can you teach us you?

Speaker 2 24:42

start the day with a yoga class and then end it with a yo, because that's what it seems like.

Speaker 1 24:46

You just got the zen about you.

Balancing Work and Leisure Activities

Speaker 3 24:49

That's a great question. No, I actually really enjoy working.

Speaker 3 24:54

I always have. I mean, any family that ends up watching this will know I was selling my grandmother's grapefruit out of the back of a pickup truck at 10 years old, so I've always enjoyed that aspect and so I do enjoy it, I think, which I mean that's something you can't really teach someone, but I really I used to be very stressed out and it was actually affecting my health, and so when I got to the point where I had headache all day, every day, and I found myself, you know, shoulders up, my hands would be clenched I was actually pushing my hands against my desk at you know some parts of my career, to the point where I went to the doctor. I'm like my arm like tingles and it hurts.

Speaker 2 25:38

Yeah.

Speaker 3 25:38

And they're like what are these lines on your arms? I'm like, well, I have to be pressing against my desk because of the just you can. You can take on a lot of stress in this business, so every once in a while it's just. It was a certain point, too, financially, once I kind of broke through that point where I wasn't worried about where my next paycheck was coming from, which also is something you can't really teach people. But to lay that out is how do you set yourself up for that? Because I also know agents that all they do is go out and sell another house and sell another house and sell another house. To lay that out is how do you set?

Speaker 2 26:10

yourself up for that, because?

Speaker 3 26:10

I also know agents that all they do is go out and sell another house, and sell another house, and sell another house. And oh, my kid needs this. I got to sell a house. I'm going to go on vacation. I got to sell a house. Am I going to make my mortgage payment in three months? I got to sell a house. So, to your point of doing property management or all these hats that I wear, switching over to focusing on I'm gonna get paid whether that client buys the house or closes or not. I'm gonna get paid whether I take a client on or whether our client fires us, allows me to make the best decision possible and not get this emotionally driven right.

Speaker 3 26:44

We call it commission breath in our industry yeah yeah, um, and it's it's for, for the advice is have you guys heard of the one thing? Yeah, barry Keller, right, focusing on what's the one thing you can do which makes everything else easier or unnecessary?

Speaker 1 27:02

Yeah.

Speaker 3 27:02

And if it's, you know, getting staff to help it means you have to sell X amount of houses. Put this goal and put this idea behind it, Because I said I need to sell x amount of houses. Put this goal and put this idea behind it because I said I need to make x amount. I need to have x amount coming in every month without the end result tied to it.

Speaker 3 27:16

Allowed me to take on clients, fire clients yeah not show up for work if I don't want to one of my big goals. I just talked to someone the other day.

Speaker 2 27:24

I want to come in every day because I enjoy working.

Speaker 3 27:26

Just said that working is the issue. I want to come in every day and only do what I want to do.

Speaker 1 27:33

That's nice.

Speaker 3 27:34

That's my end goal. I love that Right.

Speaker 2 27:35

I'm going to come in, I love working with clients.

Speaker 3 27:37

I love coaching and consulting with clients. I have multiple brokers that call me for advice. I have teams that hire me to come in and consult on processes and systems, and that's what I enjoy doing. Doesn't always pay the bills, so it was how do I set something up so that I tackled that one thing? Now I can work towards? Yeah, um, doing that one thing, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 28:01

That's smart. That's one thing I always thought about with property management because I always knew there's, there's always gonna be shifts in our business and you're absolutely right when it shifts the real estate agents. A lot of us feel it a lot, even as much as we work hard or not, if you're attached to those deals, property management, you still have that rolling in, you still have that inventory right.

Speaker 3 28:20

So yeah, I should say so.

Speaker 1 28:24

So, besides all the business being a workaholic over here, what do you do for fun?

Speaker 2 28:33

being a workaholic over here. What do you do for fun? I travel nice.

Speaker 3 28:35

I like to travel um what was the last place you went to seattle? Oh, my best friends live in seattle. It's gorgeous, it's cooler. Yeah, um, just detaching from the office, if I have to right, just even it's little trips, long trips yeah I work when I go on trips a lot, but it's a change of scenery that's relaxing to me. I'm remodeling my house which is very time consuming, Even if you're not doing the work my dad does a lot of the work but it's time consuming Other than that family.

Speaker 3 29:04

going to dinner with my sisters tonight tacos, margaritas, so just kind of keeping that.

Speaker 1 29:09

I'm single, you know bachelor, no kids on the market over here and keeping yourself to what you like to do yeah no major hobbies really?

Speaker 3 29:20

yeah, I don't really have.

Speaker 2 29:21

But that's cool. Yeah, we like to travel. We like travel and eating.

Speaker 1 29:24

We share the same we're the same way we work we travel.

Speaker 2 29:28

We eat work we drink working is always better in a different setting and not your regular setting, for sure. Yeah, sometimes we'll end up downtown, even at a coffee shop, downtown, las vegas, at a coffee shop, just working for the morning. That feels like a change, like a really good time.

Exploring Different Living Styles

Speaker 1 29:44

Yeah, I like just going down there. Sometimes it just feels, it feels like a different yeah, it feels like a real city where sometimes like so you know, summerlin, you know it can be a little uh, like its own world, so to speak. But I, I like going. I'm the same way, it's like an energy thing for me, yeah, just going seattle downtown wherever, but it I'm the same way, I like to just get out of the that for a little bit.

Speaker 3 30:05

I like to experience all those different types of living styles right, like you said, going downtown Water Street has actually become kind of fun. There's different things down there in Henderson, downtown Summerlin, I like hanging out in Red Rock. I like the restaurants, I like the energy. I'm not a big gambler, but it's fun people watching. So, even traveling, it's like I can find myself again getting towards that, only doing what I want to do every day.

Speaker 3 30:32

I want to live in New York for three months and I want to go to Hawaii for three months. In fact, I was there for a month, not too long ago. So, like you said, mixing it up, yeah.

Speaker 2 30:40

That's an awesome goal, because I like my job.

Speaker 3 30:43

I like helping others, whether buy, sell property management. I mean, I truly, when a client calls and says it's a horrible experience, I'm like yes, let me fix it. Let me turn this around and show you that property management really can be great. It can be a great experience. So I do get joy in that, and you have to love what you do.

Speaker 1 31:07

Yeah, it sounds like we have a lot in common and we like a lot of places, so we ran out of time now, so we got to wrap this up. I want to thank the best co-hosts in the business. Yes, sir, if you guys are looking to rent out your house, if you're an agent that needs a great transaction coordinator company, chris Hans, your man, hit him up. Guys, this is Ron in Vegas. Take. Guys, this is Ron in Vegas, take care of yourselves today. Awesome.