Speaker 1: 0:14

Hey guys, john McNamara, host running Vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. If you like what you see, like subscribe. Follow us on run in Vegas podcast on Instagram. And today we got a special guest, mr Corey Brown, controller a virtue real estate group. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for having me on man excited to be here, excited to have you on. So tell us about you, tell us your story, where, you're from all right.

Speaker 2: 0:43

so, um, cory brown, uh, originally from california but, um, after doing, you know, elementary school, middle school down in california, moved to las vegas with my family. My dad opened up a uh a law firm just kind of down the road here, and so I call vegas home. Um, you know, all of my like really being grown up years, you know, my developmental years all took place here. So, from Vegas, went to Spring Valley High School, graduated in 2007. After that I went to college, initially BYU-Idaho, and then I actually went on an LDS service mission for a couple years down in Chile just a little Spanish, but served my mission in Chile and then, when I came back, went to BYU, provo.

Speaker 2: 1:31

That's where I graduated from and that's where I met my wife, and so my wife's name is Cami. We have four kids together. We've got our oldest, gracieie, we've got Bennett, then we've got Boston and then we've got Charlotte, the little one-year-old. So yeah, life's pretty busy, but we've been kind of everywhere We've been. After having graduated in Utah, we went and worked in Idaho and then Texas and then we've been back in Vegas now for about eight years.

Speaker 1: 2:01

Wow, so we love Vegas. That's pretty cool. I didn't know you served in Chile for a little bit too. That's pretty cool. Tell me about that experience.

Speaker 2: 2:10

Sure, yeah. So I served in a place it's called Antofagasta.

Speaker 2: 2:14

It's the very northern part of Chile and it's actually one of the areas that I served in was like it touched Peru, so like we were at the very end of Chile. There and Chile is a really long country and where I was at it's basically it's like the armpit of the world. It is desert, just like Las Vegas. It just happens to be. Most of the cities are along the coast, so you'd walk around and people are out watering their dirt. That's what they do to not have everything tracked into their house.

Speaker 1: 2:44

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:50

Yes, but great experience, wonderful people, um, so, yeah, yeah, kind of an exciting couple of years. A lot of hard work, but, um, yeah, great appreciation for the people of chile.

Speaker 1: 2:57

I bet, yeah, it must have been an incredible experience yeah, really cool. Yeah, I love the people travel and I really just kind of like mexico so I'm not like a good but I, I've gotten a lot out of that, those experience. So, but yeah, so tell me so. It sounds like you've been to a lot of places idaho, uh, utah, texas, you know. Now you're back in vegas.

Speaker 2: 3:18

You know how was that experience being back in vegas, and yeah, no, I mean bad Vegas feels like home of all the places we've been. I mean, you know, utah was a lot of school. I got my first job actually right out of school. So I guess, start off with, I got my my marketing degree from BYU and then I went to work for Nestle and the job that I was sold on was that it was kind of this marketing role but really was just sales, and so I kind of quickly found that, like, the things that I was passionate about did not involve tricking people into buying more candy than they actually needed in their grocery stores Not tricking so much.

Speaker 2: 4:00

But you know, there were just there were some things that were kind of unnecessary, and you know you're always getting pushed to do more. I just didn't really enjoy that and so I went and worked for another company. It's called transwest mobile truck repair. Basically we managed, um, all of the cox, um kind of vehicles. I think it was. It was dish, it was the, the dish trucks. We had like 1300 vehicles in that fleet down in houston and we were responsible for getting other trucks repaired.

Speaker 2: 4:26

But the way that the it was DISH, it was the DISH trucks. We had like 1,300 vehicles in that fleet down in Houston and we were responsible for getting other trucks repaired. But the way that the company was set up is we would actually it was mobile so on the guys' days off, to help be efficient in all their mobile repairs, we would send technicians out to their homes and do all the repairs at their houses when the guys were off.

Speaker 2: 4:40

So it was to help DISH. It created a lot of value for dish be able to get their fleet in good condition without having to, uh, um, get them off the road, you know, prevent them from working, yeah. But then, after having worked there for a little while, we realized, you know, one of the goals I'd always have was to get an mba, and so I um, they weren't super, um, supportive of me going back to school. Or, you know, you get it, that's great, but like we're not going back to school. Or you know you get it, that's great, but like we're not going to pay you more, and you know. So my vision of what I wanted from life brought us back to Las Vegas and then, for the last seven, almost eight years, I worked at Fabulous Freddy's Car Wash.

Speaker 1: 5:17

Oh OK.

Speaker 2: 5:17

Yeah, and I was a controller there. I started doing like accounts receivable for him for the first couple of years and then I completed my MBA. It's all done online, okay, um, but after graduating, searching for a job, uh, the, the two guys that run the company, it's Freddie Smith. Freddie is a real person, that's so fabulous, freddie's. He's real. And then, uh, jeff, I know that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:39

And then you got Jeff Warnick, who's the CFO and, um, I had known Jeff, he had been a neighbor for a long time, and so when I was coming back to Vegas, he's like look, we've got this role in accounts receivable. And then we had a conversation once after finishing school. He was like, dude, you're just, you know you finished school. Now I know you're looking for work. You're too smart to just be doing accounts receivable. I've got this role that I'd like to create and we'd like to put you into it. And so that's how I transitioned kind of from sales into sort of managing a company and to more of a an accounting role, and then gotten to a financial controller role. And that's what I've been doing with them for like the last. I've been with them for about eight years, but for the last six to seven or five to six years I've been their financial controller Awesome.

Speaker 1: 6:24

Yeah, okay, six to seven or five to six years have been their financial controller. Awesome, yeah, okay. So tell us because, darren, you, you've moved over to virtue real estate group. Congratulations, thank you very excited. We're excited to have you part of the brokerage. Yeah, thanks, and darren was pumped to tell us about the new controller coming over. So I was talking about it a little bit, you know, with people and the one thing I got from talking to a couple people is what the heck is a controller?

Speaker 2: 6:46

Yeah, sure, so if you don't mind sharing that, yeah, no, I was trying to think about the best way to describe this. And did you like Legos growing up? Of course, okay, yeah, most guys do right. Legos are awesome, just don't step on them.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Just don't step on them.

Speaker 2: 7:00

But like when you rip open Legos and you kind of dump out all the pieces and you've got your instructions, but like it's just sort of a mess. And when you're trying to run a business there's just like this mess. And you know you're trying to get everything organized, you're trying to fix everything and at the same time you have all these other like competing interests trying to take your attention away or they need help with things and you're trying to stay focused. And so a controller, financial controller, you know, one of the most important pieces of running a business is understanding your finances so you can set, you know, good, accurate goals, so that you know you can, you know you want to be profitable and when you're just, when your attention is just divided between everything.

Speaker 2: 7:42

It's so hard to keep that all in focus Because, honestly, you might be doing great in sales but you don't realize that you've invested so much in some of these other things and have all these expenses. Where it looks like you're profitable, you actually aren't, and that's not always the case for most businesses, but it can happen. And so what will happen as a controller is, you know, let me take this huge piece of your business and let me focus on it for you. And so that way, the only thing you're presented when it comes to understanding your finances is like here's the end results. Now let's make some good decisions. And so you know it's managing your accounts payable accounts receivable, making sure the bank account, bank account you know everything is reconciling correctly, and getting good financial reports. That way, when you're trying to make good business decisions, you're focused in the right direction, because right now it's just so easy, with all the distractions as a business owner, to be just sort of get lost in those tasks. Yeah, and so that's, that's, that's job.

Speaker 1: 8:41

That's a really important job.

Speaker 2: 8:42

Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1: 8:44

I know, especially in sales, like our team, we talk about all the time it's the beach ball effect and I know myself, like I'm really focused on sales and that's what I do and that's what I'm good at is bringing in the money right. But then if I'm not taking the time to take the step back and look at the expenses, the profitability and you know, so that's really important. So, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2: 9:05

Yeah, so yeah, I'm taking those Legos and I'm just trying to piece them together so he doesn't have to worry about it. So I'm hoping, once he gets that nice little Lego whether it's a ship or it's a castle- hopefully, when I present it to him, he's like all right, now I'm putting it here and I'm facing it this direction.

Speaker 2: 9:26

We're making good choices, so great that's. That's my job. Yes, okay, cool, I like it. So how do you end up at virtue real estate group? Yeah, so it's a cool story. So I'm trying to think how far back to go. I had a really great career and I learned so much at fabulous Freddy's. Okay, love them. But we just got to a point where I've got too many kids.

Speaker 2: 9:41

Now you know, I've got my four children and we were looking for work and so, um, if you've ever tried applying to like, indeed, and stuff, it just not. I mean, you basically just get ghosted by everybody. So you kind of put some things out, but then you lose momentum. So I happen to be just sort of hanging out one day and one of my friends his name is, uh, john Quyamzin. Um, shout out to John, but uh, he does a lot of the video marketing and editing for, um, darren, my boss, and for Virtue Real Estate Group, and so John's been on the part, has he? Okay? Hey, so it's Darren. Yeah, okay, so everybody knows him. It's a club. Yeah, yeah, so, yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:23

So John, I guess had been out doing a shoot for Darren one evening, okay, and Darren was like look, man, I am ready to take my business and I want to blow it up. Let's expand this thing. Let's, you know, really go for it. He's like, but I'm looking for a controller. I a controller. I needed, like you know, I just need someone looking for someone who's honest, that I can trust. It's like do you know anyone? So I got a text from John and was like dude, you looking for work? I was like, absolutely, I am. And he's like all right, I'm gonna send your number over to Darren. Darren texted me within like three minutes after he had sent the information. He set up a call for the next morning and so, honestly, it wasn't something. I you know, I've been kind of poking around at things, but nothing was really working out. Yeah, and so really it came down to just having a friend in the right position, the right place. That was like hey, got an opportunity, you game. And I was like, yes, let's do this, that's great.

Speaker 1: 11:15

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:22

So that's how it came to be.

Speaker 1: 11:23

I got to meet with him and a couple of his partners and um the rest is history.

Speaker 2: 11:25

Great, sounds like darren. On top of it, you're texting back in three minutes yeah, always right, absolutely so cool.

Speaker 1: 11:29

So tell us more about you. Know your day-to-day, you know what are the greatest challenges being a controller, and I, I know, um, it sounds like there's a shift in industry that you're coming into. But yeah, you know, and I, I think you I don't know how long you've been virtually like a week or two, that's. I don't want to put you like a week and a half yeah no.

Speaker 2: 11:45

So I honestly there's, um, there's a lot of things that are super um similar, but there's also things that are very different. Okay, and so on top of just kind of learning a brand new industry, you know there's there's new accounting systems that I'm unfamiliar with. That I've been able to get some training on and stuff, but you know they're still a challenge to make sure I understand the formats, how they work. You know we use different kinds of accounting methods. You know, here, with virtue, we're recognizing revenue differently than I was doing it with fabulous Freddy's. Yeah, and that's more. Just like there's cash based versus accrual based accounting, like, yeah, we're not doing anything shady or anything, it's just, it's different right and so I'm having to learn kind of these processes and what I can and can't do within our accounting software systems.

Speaker 2: 12:34

Um, my day-to-day, you know, seems like I usually come in and I'm solving the problems that I left from like the night before.

Speaker 2: 12:41

Know, seems like I usually come in and I'm solving the problems that I left from like the night before, but then I spend most of my day reviewing bank transactions, making sure they're getting categorized to create correct general ledger codes, making sure expenses are going where they're supposed to. I've got, I think I have, like two or three emails that I'm checking now to check for any outstanding invoice that need to be paid. And then I'm taking all that information and I'm just trying to get it, when I can, in front of Darren so that we can make a plan for what needs to be paid, what choices need to be made about certain companies that we're working with. And I'm just right now I'm just trying to understand how all those processes work so that I can get that information to him, be as efficient as possible but also take care of, you know, our vendors and the people that are looking out for us, and so all that's just, it's very similar but being in a different industry, using different software and things, very different.

Speaker 1: 13:39

Okay, so very similar, similar, very different. Are you using different software system?

Speaker 2: 13:42

then yeah, okay, yeah so, uh, the system we use at fabulous freddy's it was more of, uh, things were manually entered, so there's a lot of um busy work.

Speaker 2: 13:54

Uh, the software that we use I mean, everyone's probably pretty familiar with it, but quickbooks we use quickbooks and you know they have so many um incredible features that allow you to be so much more efficient with your time, and so there's so much less manually entering items, things that are just being automated, so that way, when we get to the end of a month, we're typically with the more kind of manual based system.

Speaker 2: 14:19

You know it's gonna take you several days to close out your month and make sure your financials are good. With some of this new software which it's not new, but it's new to me we're going to be able to finish out that process in like a day or two. So it just allows us to be so much faster and more efficient with our time and allows us to focus more on the tasks that are more important, which is okay. Now that the numbers are finalized and all presented, you know what decisions do we need to make so that, going into next month, we're making better decisions or, you know, becoming more profitable, and so that's new software for me, but it's super helpful Great.

Speaker 1: 14:56

Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it's way more efficient. I guess my other question is for you, because it sounds like you're on top of it month to month and, yeah, you're looking at like quarter to quarter. It looks like. Do you guys go over like projections of what you think the next quarter is going to look like? Cause, as I'm sure you know too, in the real estate industry we're very seasonal, sure. So how does that work for you?

Speaker 2: 15:18

Yeah, and that's and that's going to be new for me too. Like um, I understand that you know we have some slower winter months. You know you have years that are slower during election years. You know there's different trends that, um, that affect the real estate industry, um, so a lot of that for the first little bit as I get integrated into virtue real estate group, a lot of that's going to come. A lot of the projections are going to come from working with Darren and being able to sort of understand what he anticipates is going to happen. And then at that point it's going out. And you know, a lot of the projections that we'll make will be based off of I'm just going to say assumptions. But those assumptions are going to be what help us create our goals of how we're going to get to those points. So, yes, we're looking at those things quarter to quarter, year to year, month to month, week to week.

Speaker 2: 16:14

We're trying to dial it down so that we're removing inefficiencies as fast as possible and we're creating projections for revenue based on current trends, past trends, what we anticipate, future trends and be able to kind of make a profit plan. But that's all going to be pretty new and a lot of it's going to come from the experience of people like you.

Speaker 1: 16:33

Okay, cool. Well, darren's obviously on the pulse, so he's going to be able to. You're absolutely right. You hit on the nose because this was like a weird year for us in real estate because it was election and it was a crazy election, right? So I mean, the market was basically dead from July until two weeks ago.

Speaker 2: 16:48

Right, and what's funny about that? So at Fabulous Freddy's, like, we had gaming. You know, slot gaming in the C stores and it's the same thing, you know. We were talking to our partners at the gaming company we worked with and we were like what is going on this year? And they're like this happens every election year. People start to hold on to their money. Money will come back, just watch. So it's kind of funny how it affects Elections will affect different industries different ways. So I think everybody's looking forward to a good 2025 and bounce backs.

Speaker 1: 17:21

Absolutely. It's funny because I was talking to other you know business partner or friends you know in other industries and just seemed like everything was slow. So it's good to think see things kind of ramp up again. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. So one thing that's interesting about real estate as well is usually about 60% of our business is written in the first half of the year and the 40% second. So that's a big thing that comes with real estate. How do you see your job evolving over the next five years? I know it's been a couple of weeks, but tell me more about that and what you see with that.

Speaker 2: 17:55

Yeah, and you know I was. I was thinking about that earlier about like five to 10 years down the road. You know how is my role different and right now you know we're still a really small company for the most part with plans of you know, getting really large and a lot of times with expansion. You know you take on more people and you know it requires. You know where you used to have just like a controller. Now you need some people to you know, run your accounts, receivable, accounts receivable, accounts, payable, be reaching out to vendors, following up on payments, those kinds of things.

Speaker 2: 18:28

But with kind of this emerging trend of like new technology, I think that we're going to be able to maintain kind of a really lean system.

Speaker 2: 18:34

So what really what I anticipate next five to ten years, as we get really big, we're going to be able to expand but be able to keep our kind of office footprint really small, and so that'll just be me continuing to be engaged in, you know, different I don't want to say tasks, but, like In some companies where you know maybe they don't have their controller working on these tests, I'll be able to stay in them which and when I say them, you know, accounts payable, accounts receivable, those kinds of things. I can stay in them, but that helps me keep a good pulse on exactly what's going on with the company. So I'm not depending on other people like, hey, what's going on with those invoices? I can stay involved but at the same time it's not adding extra work, because there is currently, you know, there's like QuickBooks, you've got technology that's just streamlining everything. So I'll be able to stay involved but also have a better idea of what's going on in the business while we grow, but keeping kind of that footprint small.

Speaker 1: 19:29

Yeah, I'll be honest with you. It's really nice just having you in the office, because I've worked for a lot of bigger brokers and Darren has a very big mindset and you want to grow this brokerage fast, and that's one thing we really enjoy working with Darren. But working for bigger companies, bigger brokerages, back in day you don't. You don't meet the controller, you don't get that. So it's kind of cool for me because I like all aspects of the business and learning more about it. So, with QuickBooks or any, do you see any like AI programs coming out that you're gonna utilize in the future as well, or?

Speaker 2: 20:01

I don't know.

Speaker 2: 20:02

I got to imagine though like yeah, you see the way that AI is transforming.

Speaker 2: 20:05

You know, for example, this is a silly example, but we had we had someone in our church organization that was giving a talk, yeah, and he had actually started giving this talk and it sounded totally normal and he was like I'm gonna stop right there because I asked chat gpt to write part of this and, you know, it sounded like a totally normal thing, like a human had written it, and it was. It was he like integrated into what he was talking about? But I think that those systems will make what we do, especially, like you know, with all these financial tasks and building out reports and interpreting reports and creating cash flow projections. I think a lot of those things that, yes, ai will be able to step in and we'll you still need to get down into the details, but I think AI will be much more prevalent in helping us project income, revenue, growth, um, and, honestly, I think it'll just make my life easier so yes, I do anticipate that happening, but how it actually affects, like the real estate industry.

Speaker 2: 21:09

I'm not totally sure what's being designed yet, but I'm excited to jump in and learn more there's a lot out there.

Speaker 1: 21:13

Well, at least for my side of it. You know chat. I think when ai was first coming out, everybody's freaking out agents are going away. So far it's been great uh tool for us. And yeah, we use chat gpt when I do. You know, do work on the podcast later it usually you know, does the?

Speaker 1: 21:29

whole synopsis and you got to read through it, because it does make mistakes here and there, sure, uh, but it's been a great tool. A lot, lot of these even make it short. It's pretty incredible. It's just. It makes us way more efficient, which has been pretty cool, right, right, so tell me okay, so we've gone through the controller. It seems like you're a big family man.

Speaker 2: 21:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:49

So you were talking about that a little bit before. You transitioned virtual real estate, so you got a big family. You know how do you? How do you create balance in your life? It seems like you're a hard worker as well, and thank you.

Speaker 2: 21:58

Yeah, yeah, I hope that's true. Yeah, yeah, no, so I, sometimes things don't always feel balanced. Yeah, you know, I'll say that, you know, and I mean that in in the nicest way possible. Yeah, most of my time is focused on my family, you know, when you get home and until you get them to bed, it is just, it's like trying to herd cats, right?

Speaker 1: 22:26

You know the second team, yeah, probably yeah, probably similar.

Speaker 2: 22:31

Yeah, so you, you, you start to, you know, focus on one thing and trying to help someone with homework and then you get, you know, distracted over here. So, honestly, I mean you've got to find good outlets, things that you can do to enjoy yourself, one of the things that I really like doing. I've got a really good group of friends that we actually like together and play board games. Oh, cool.

Speaker 2: 22:51

Yeah, I haven't seen them in a couple weeks. Sorry about that, guys, but really enjoy playing board games, engaging my mind in kind of a different way. This isn't like Monopoly. I don't know if you know that there's like a whole other realm of board games. Give me your go-to board games. Go-to. Yeah, oh, there's so many. Okay, where to start? I don't know where to start. Okay, ark Nova. We'll start with Ark Nova.

Speaker 2: 23:19

If you like zoos, it's a board game about zoos putting together a zoo. I play that one with one friend pretty consistently. Okay, I don't know, there's so many of them and they're so complicated, and so I try to get my wife to play. She hates them, so she lets me go play with my friends like once a week. So, yeah, so I mean she hates them, so she lets me go play with my friends like once a week. So, uh, yeah. So I mean we find ways. You know, um, I like going and shooting guns. I like motorcycles. You know my kids have a little dirt bike. They ride around the neighborhood. Um, where do you guys go shooting?

Speaker 2: 23:50

um, growing up, we usually just found a spot in the desert yeah uh, last couple times I've attempted to do that, we've gotten kicked out by. It's a little bit tougher now yeah you got to get really far away to do that yeah but they have a local shooting range um north las vegas, up past arbor view, shadow ridge, one of those schools, so you can go up there and they've got all kinds of different shooting that you can do. Um, yeah, so I mean it's just, it's, do you?

Speaker 1: 24:17

trying to find some time to shotgun guy, rifle guy um all right.

Speaker 2: 24:22

Um well, I just went trap shooting a couple weeks ago with a friend. Um, so I really love shotguns. I I don't get out rifle shooting enough as I would like to, and I've got a little 22 that I want to take my kids out and teach them how to shoot. So I mean a combination of everything. I like it all. Yeah, I like the sound.

Speaker 1: 24:43

I like the way it hurts your shoulder it's all fun, you've got to have a little pain at the end of it, right?

Speaker 2: 24:47

Yeah, if you don't leave and you're not hurting for a week, you didn't do it Pain and a um.

Speaker 1: 24:54

Have you met my brother yet? Chris ward, that's your brother, that's my brother. I had no idea that is my brother. Okay, he is really big into games so yeah, when you're talking about the whole games, how complicated are. So my brother, like once a year, he tried. I'm not going to be a good game person, by the way okay, all right, I'll invite you yeah, uh, I'll come and have a beer, but, um, I probably won't play the game.

Speaker 1: 25:16

But he every year will try to get me to play some very complicated game and I could care less. But when you're naming all these games, are these board games? Yeah, these are board games.

Speaker 2: 25:25

Yes, so you guys need to talk.

Speaker 1: 25:27

Yeah, yeah, it needs to happen, I think, so I think you guys should get along. That's awesome Cool. Do you do anything else fun? Do you travel or back to Chile?

Speaker 2: 25:36

No, never I wish. It's complicated to travel with a bunch of kids. Oh, I bet this last year we got one of those big bags that goes on top of your car. Finally, because we don't have enough space in our car to haul stuff, most of our traveling is up to Utah. My parents have a cabin up Duck Creek. Oh, I love Duck.

Speaker 1: 25:56

Creek, so Cedar City and my parents have a cabin up Duck Creek.

Speaker 2: 25:58

Oh, I love Duck Creek.

Speaker 1: 25:58

So Cedar City, oh, cedar, all right, yeah, duck Creek's awesome. Well, I don't live. I go to southern Utah like every six months. Okay, it's one of my favorite places to go.

Speaker 2: 26:05

Yeah, yeah, my parents are in St George, so we visit. More than anything. I would say we go either up to St George to Duck Creek my in-laws all live up and some of my siblings too. I'll just say Provo to Salt Lake, kind of that area. Okay, so make trips up there, but it's a lot of work, so we only do it we have to now.

Speaker 1: 26:24

but yeah, I'm a family yeah, you got a big family, so I can understand that's DC yourself long term in Las Vegas or moving back to Utah.

Speaker 2: 26:33

No, I mean, if the opportunity presented itself, where darren was like hey, man, we're opening an office here, you want to go work there? Yeah, okay, maybe, but I don't, I don't know. Um, the housing market there right now is really challenging. Yeah, you know, really old homes are really expensive and new homes are really really expensive. They are, yeah, um, and we, honestly, we love our community, we love our neighborhood, we live up Centennial area oh great.

Speaker 1: 26:57

That's where my parents live.

Speaker 2: 26:58

Yeah, it's really wonderful. We got everything. We need Good schools. So long term, I would anticipate we're sticking around Las.

Speaker 1: 27:05

Vegas Sticking around, yeah, and we're getting the A's.

Speaker 2: 27:07

We now you know.

Speaker 1: 27:08

Raiders A's, are you a baseball?

Speaker 2: 27:09

guy Well, what's your sport? No, no, it's football.

Speaker 1: 27:13

Definitely football I love football. I figured you went to BYU.

Speaker 2: 27:16

Yeah, I actually worked for the BYU football team for a year. Oh did you? Yeah, oh my.

Speaker 1: 27:20

God, you've been leaving this out, this entire podcast. Yeah, can you believe it? We could have talked about this for 30 minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:26

I worked for the BYU football team. I was an equipment manager that was due get into virtue. I had a really good friend, matt, who got me a position, um, but I got to travel to Notre.

Speaker 1: 27:41

Dame go see their locker room.

Speaker 2: 27:42

Wow, yeah, it was incredible. That place was awesome. Um, I know we just barely beat Utah, but it was a miracle, but uh, you know it was an interesting penalty, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it didn't help us out much to go to Kansas next week.

Speaker 1: 27:57

It might have been some of the NL money yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:00

But they no. I was at the University of Utah the year that there was like we had three attempts to kick a field goal and we kept getting another attempt. There were like two different times because of just penalties on Utah, yeah, and we missed all three of them and the field got rushed like three times. I was there that year. That sucked, yeah, but yeah, no. I love football so, yeah, that would be my sport cool.

Speaker 1: 28:25

Yeah, I grew up being a Notre Dame fan. I didn't go there you know. But yeah, I've been south and multiple times and it's cool, man, yeah, it's awesome. It's a different world up there for sure. Yeah, byu, you guys are looking pretty good this year.

Speaker 2: 28:41

Yeah, no, it's been a weird year and I think we have been living on a few miracles. Yeah, and this last week it didn't work out and we've got a tough schedule with Arizona State and even if we get to the Big 12 championship I'm not sure you know Colorado's looking really hot. Yeah, I don't know if we can beat them, it could be doable, it could happen. There's a road to national championship, but I would be shocked. Do you watch? Byu basketball at all no, but I'm very excited about the basketball team.

Speaker 1: 29:15

Yeah, you guys just got local here in Vegas, seven-footer who was supposed to go to UNLV but he went to BYU, oh really. And then I think the number one kid in the nation. He's like a 6'9 shooting guard.

Speaker 2: 29:26

I cannot remember his name right now, yeah, he's up in St George Hurricane area, I think yeah, he is like they're saying BYU is going to give them like $2 or $3 million a year to play for them. Yeah, so that's pretty cool. Good time to be a BYU fan. Yeah, I love it Very exciting, yeah, but awesome.

Speaker 1: 29:42

Well, dude, I want to thank you for being on yeah absolutely. We're going to wrap up the pod. If you guys are looking for some financial advice, no-transcript.