RUNNIN' VEGAS - The John McNamara Podcast

Shaping Vegas: Luke Cunningham on Real Estate and Local Culture

John McNamara
Speaker 1:

hey guys, the john mcmahon host ron in vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. Guys like we see, like, subscribe, follow us on instagram run in vegas podcast and today we got a special guest, mr luke conahan. The myth, the legend in the house.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I'm here for the holiday edition, the last edition of uh the year yeah, bringing the holiday spirit with this night's jersey my night's jersey. There's a game today. Yeah, we're going to have some fun. Go watch the game. John's actually going to the game, so that'll be good for him. Go Knights, I'm going to go watch it at my girlfriend's house.

Speaker 1:

Nice and I'll be at the bar hey Watching the game Sounds good.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about you, man, how'd you get?

Speaker 2:

So my background is in logistics and I moved to Vegas in 2008 from Orange County, california, newport Beach a big move. I moved here with work. It was a coaching company actually real estate coaching company that I worked for and they relocated from Irvine to Las Vegas in the southwest here. So it was a big move. I love Vegas and I knew my mom lived here for a while so I knew of Vegas, I knew the surrounding community. It wasn't big in 2008.

Speaker 2:

People were moving out of here when I moved in and the housing market was going down, yeah, and it was hard to do anything here. But it is a great location because you have the surrounding Utah, arizona and back to California within three to four hours to six hours. You can be in Phoenix at six hours. You can be in Orange County and like depends how you drive, but three and a half, and Utah and like less than two hours. So with my background of snowboarding and wakeboarding and boating and stuff like that, it was the perfect location for me. At the time. I was 35 and it was just time to get out of orange county. Orange county is a very special place. That's very unique. Love it, love the beaches, but yeah it, it was time for a change. Yeah, so here we are.

Speaker 1:

Here we are, and you and I met around that same time, so yeah, so it was good to have friends here like yeah, I'm grateful for you because when I moved here I had no friends and, uh, you were my first real friend.

Speaker 2:

You're, full disclosure, one of my best friends on the pod today filling in, helping out, which I appreciate we went to go show a home.

Speaker 1:

He's looking at buying another property here.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I am in Henderson near the Water Street community. I live a block from Water Street right now. I bought that home three years ago, love that home. I park and walk to the eateries and go watch sports and stuff like that along the street if I'm not watching it at my house and go watch sports and stuff like that along the street if I'm not watching it at my house. But that community and what Henderson is doing especially because I have a kid now, so it's different from Vegas for me and I do a lot of boating activities at Lake, las Vegas and or Meade, so to me it was a no-brainer to move to Henderson. It just seems a lot better than vegas. I got a good view of vegas.

Speaker 1:

We're up on the hills so we can see the lights well you're on water street, because I remember when you were buying your first one over there, I mean you were talking about water street, how they're developing it. Yeah, and I love water street. If I was gonna live, I'm not gonna move to henderson, but if I did, it would be very close to there because it does, for it's a it's got a nice downtown area. It's really cool. If you guys haven't seen it, go check it out. Check out water street. But you're on top of this like five years ago telling me about it and you ended up buying there. You got a great buy, um, and looks like you want to reinvest down there. Is there anything else going on? It seems like every time I'm down there, they they're building something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so right now the Water Street community, all the properties are being bought up that had been vacant and stuff like that, new eateries all the time, the condos there they just built condos across from the arena and those are, I think, in question. I think the developer ran out of money, so that is one big black eye on the community. Right now. It's like these condos that haven't been built sitting there, just brand new, and nobody, I don't think, has invested it yet.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's interesting, so we're waiting for that development to happen and once that development happens, I can't see that that street's just going to pop off. I mean, they built new housing on water street. They built a new hotel on water street. That's part of the past casino, um sponsor, no, uh, but there's a lot going on. That was like the first hotel built on water on water street. So now that the arena is, the silver knights practice there and the silver knights and the kids play there and it's open ice and stuff. So if you're looking for a hockey rink that isn't in two, well, it's kind of busy there, but I know they're building more. I think they might build a hockey rink in southwest, from what I've been reading.

Speaker 2:

Oh really, and um, how many hacker rings well, that's the thing once you get a hockey team once you get a hockey team, like when I was in anaheim when the ducks were brought in and it was it was weird to see the shift from like soccer and football and like baseball to see these kids now I would go to open ices and skate, you know, for fun.

Speaker 2:

And these kids were out there just playing with their sticks and like they were. I mean the skating part of it is amazing, the way these kids skate nowadays, there just playing with their sticks and like they were. I mean the skating part of it is amazing, the way these kids skate. Nowadays you can go over to the silver knights and watch them play. You could just walk in and there's a restaurant bar where you can sit up and watch down. And these kids are amazing.

Speaker 1:

Like sometimes I prefer watching them over the pros oh, I know well, you and I've gone over there a couple times. Yeah, and yeah, they're flying around. Yeah, I'm like, oh my God, I kind of wish I played hockey when I was younger. I grew up in, as you know, in upstate New York. Yeah, and we had rinks everywhere.

Speaker 1:

And you went to a university that was really into it when I was younger. I kind of got away from it, from moving out here, and then they brought the Knights back. So I'm kind of back into it. I kind of watch Knights when they get in the playoffs. I'm not as enthusiastic as you Knights gear.

Speaker 2:

Look, this is part of just because I'm supporting friends, but I've been to hockey games. I've been to hockey playoff games, I've seen it. I do not understand the 20-minute intermissions, because when these guys are interviewed in between periods they're pretty much fully clothed or they're out of their gear. I understand it's a grueling game, I get it. When you're ice skating for that long and banging your bodies up, you need a 20-minute break, but it just makes sitting there kind of unbearable to me, I mean a halftime of a football game.

Speaker 2:

even is long sometimes. I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

But that's my only complaint about hockey.

Speaker 2:

Other than that, hockey is a great sport. I love that the Vegas community has surrounded themselves with it and they're doing stuff for the youth and the kids in the community and it's strong.

Speaker 2:

I mean, right now we went and looked at a house and there was four or five huge buses from Seattle. I think I read one from last night. There was one from, like Oregon, uh, and they're parked all around Water Street. Just the kids. I mean these are. And they're parked all around Water Street, just the kids. I mean these are junior league hockey and they're busing them down.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it must be, you remember.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how many bus rides you went on in football. I ran a college track and I played a little bit of college football and the bus rides were grueling. But I can imagine like when you're younger it's probably better because the seats are more cushy for you.

Speaker 1:

Those buses look a lot nicer than the buses. I remember, yeah, we had like school buses these kids have.

Speaker 2:

Like the buses pull up, like yeah, you're, like I'm like what? Any bus that makes that sound, it's like a transformer bus okay, there's a lot of money in hockey yeah hockey's cool sport yeah, it's cool it's the one thing cool thing about knights.

Speaker 1:

It's really spawned a lot the raiders coming, everything, because I think it was the first yeah moment uh, oh yeah, sports work here. You know, now we're gonna get an nba team.

Speaker 2:

That was missing, um, and I think because I'm a fight fan and everything the arenas for the big, huge Legion Stadium, the T-Mobile. They were needed here because we have the rooms. Vegas obviously has tons of hotel rooms, they have public transportation, that's great. We didn't have big arenas, so we were about to lose, like in the past. I think we were gonna lose uh, cowboy christmas even, yeah, because they were looking for other arenas, bigger places to go.

Speaker 2:

But you know, everybody from texas, everybody from oklahoma, uh, wyoming and the surrounding areas in nevada, that is a huge, uh rodeo state. They said, hey, hey, we like Vegas, we like going to Vegas, we like leaving Texas, we don't want to keep it in Texas because they're doing those rodeos all the time anyways. So that's a huge thing that we needed in this community and now that we're pursuing a basketball teams and developing the strip with arenas in mind and the baseball team that's coming in, that's stuff that's needed because now we host more concerts, we host more world events like the World Cup stuff like that, something that makes this city international.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I liked about it At first when I moved here. It wasn't international, it was just like kind of local community, very small town to me, coming from Orange County, orange County we move around and see different things all the time. We had sports, we had LA, just a hop, skip and jump away if you're not stuck in traffic. But here this made sense to me. I think we kind of mirrored Phoenix. When you saw Phoenix having their sports teams and how big it grew their community with Tempe and Tucson and everything else, it just made sense. And now that UNLV is stepping up and playing really well and won their bowl game last night Congrats, unlv, la Bowl, la Bowl. Which awesome. And then my Trojans are playing next Friday, the 27th, against Texas A&M at Allegiant what, the Las Vegas Bowl. So if you're a Trojan fan, please go Support the team. Fight on, yeah, fight on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're right, so it's really interesting. Yeah, because when we first moved here there wasn't that and now there's going to be probably two. There's going to be the baseball stadium and another arena. Yeah, but I don't think a lot of people, because you know, if you go to a Raider game, it's like 40, 60 away fans coming in. There's tons of away and I think I saw it the other day. The most expensive ticket in the NFL right now is Raiders.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

They're one of the worst teams in the NFL. But you look on the schedule what game are you? If you're in Green Bay and you're looking on the schedule, where are you going? You see Las Vegas is the away game. That's your one game you're going to. So it's exciting for baseball when we have 82 games and then we're gonna have nba another 40 games and there's a ton of fans coming for hockey. That's just gonna bring a ton of money to the community. It's pretty yeah, that's a good thing pretty exciting.

Speaker 2:

I just read did you read this? That uh, the the federal government made uh hotel hotel resort fees illegal, oh really, so that might change the prices and it might bring more people here.

Speaker 2:

Because, like you, know you get a hotel room and then you have to pay that extra 40 to 60 bucks for. I don't know if this is a thing you might want to look this up. But yeah, definitely. I was reading that in an article yesterday that the resort fees of hotels are starting to be federally illegal because not everybody uses the pool, not everybody uses all the amenities of the hotel, so why should they be charged for it? So I think there should be an up charge maybe the hotels will go for for, like hey, you want to use their pool? Another 20 bucks if you want to use our gym.

Speaker 2:

Another 10 bucks you'll get it that would make sense.

Speaker 1:

But I guess my concern was I could see prices going up because it's just, we're not going to even yeah, you think they would just be like all right, we're just gonna raise the price obviously like you, and I are just gonna figure out a way to get in the pool and not pay it yeah exactly all right, that's just old school stuff.

Speaker 2:

Living here that's a good thing is like uh, you know this about me I'm a hot tub guy, like this community. This, this town, is a hot tub town to me, where it's not as hot as people think it is. All the time here it's a lot cold and dry, so it's just having a pool is with a house. Whenever you're buying a house, think about a pool and think about the cost and think about that's one of my first mistakes when I did purchase my home in 2009. Yeah, I did buy one of the old school pools that were 12 feet deep. Yeah, a lot of water, a lot of maintenance, a lot of trees around and we have a lot of wind.

Speaker 1:

I loved that pool though.

Speaker 2:

It was great. I didn't want you to sell that house.

Speaker 1:

I was trying to talk you out of it. It was time, it was. That's what he said to me, john, sometimes, just time, okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's the thing you get emotional about properties you do get emotional about properties and, yeah, memories, but when you know, you know you can't think like that when it comes to investments and stuff like that. You got to take emotions out of it when you're selling your home. Um, that's one thing I learned through the coaching. I'm watching the people and going through the experience with you great.

Speaker 2:

Great realtor, by the way, hands down takes care of everything. If you don't get emotional in the process, which everybody does, it's okay to be emotional, but business wise you're good to go Like. If you just understand that's something that you're moving on to and moving out of, it's great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, you're really great at that because you're always you're savvy, you always get your next investment.

Speaker 2:

That's one thing.

Speaker 1:

I really appreciate you. Like you are always going to the next one and you're easy to work with Because I'll tell you like when, like a friend or a family member, because it's gone sideways for me. Yeah, I'm very cautious about doing business with friends and family because I know if it goes bad there's a good chance that relationship's ruined and I'd rather have the friendship than the business and you and I have done multiple deals. You're great to work with, so I appreciate it about you because not everybody's that easy to work with. You're actually like one of my easiest clients.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to be clear, I think you have to. I do this. I study stoicism, so like I have a stoic approach, most things, that you understand what your control and what you can't control and keep emotion out of it. So I think I try to have that mindset. It's not perfect, you're never gonna be perfect with mindset. Um, you're, you're always gonna have creepy thoughts in, but when you can understand the outcome is better or it's going to be better eventually, then you just move forward and you have to go through the process. And the process isn't easy all the time. Sometimes it's streamlined, sometimes it's not, but you go through those processes and usually your outcome will be better as long as you keep moving right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, going through the process, being open-minded, growth minded. You know sometimes it doesn't always go well, but if you, sometimes you win and sometimes you learn, you know you learn.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hopefully everything's a learning, hopefully a win is learning, a loss is learning right. So if you can't learn from it, yeah, that's something you need to work on well.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's go back in time a little bit. Oh, let's go Back in time. So you and I met, I think, like in 2009, give or take. So if you haven't been in Vegas that long I would say less than 10 years give me your perspective of what we saw in 2009. Markets crashing, you and I are crazy Moving to the city that's falling apart. Vegas will never come back.

Speaker 2:

Never come back, it's falling apart.

Speaker 1:

It's the worst city.

Speaker 2:

Everybody only knows the Strip, the Strip is awesome.

Speaker 2:

Vegas itself as a community wasn't a thing. People didn't understand community here. I was very lucky. I volunteered for some, uh, charity work and stuff like that, so I created a community, yeah, and I had you and I had, uh, you know, other friends here. I had friends that lived here for a while, so they understood like, hey, you're gonna come here, you're gonna look at it, you're gonna go through the first summer and you're gonna be like I can live here, like if you don't have a gambling problem, a going out problem and all that because it's always open 24-7. You can always find some trouble to get into. But if you're a calm person and just want a community, you have great communities here. You have everything in the Southwest that's expanding, everything in Henderson that's expanding. Green Valley, the north part, centennial all that is just amazing. So there are great communities, great parks here, great availability. But yeah, in 2009, it was not Some of the properties I was being shown before I hired John were pretty bad A lot of bank repos, a lot of people trashed homes on their way out and it was sad.

Speaker 2:

But that's the process too. See, you went through that, we saw it, and now people are taking care of their homes. Here Communities are nicer. There's, you know, not to use a bad word but gentrification of neighborhoods as in like yeah, they're making them more beautiful. Everything that henderson's doing like our boulder highway is an east vegas thing that everybody is like stay away from boulder highway, right, but henderson recently just tore it all up and now they're, you know, they're making it beautiful. From Russell, where their border is, to Vegas, down to the 11, the 95 freeway, all of Boulder Highway, which is a good cut through and usually moves pretty fast when it's not under construction, is being beautified. So the money's here, the communities are here, they're investing and that's the good part. That's what you want to see when you're in a city, even though I'm on the outskirts as much as I can be when you go into town, you want to see growth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think you're on the nose, because I hear it all the time. When's the next collapse of Las Vegas going to occur? Probably never, I don't see it happening. Yeah, it's a totally different city now. When we moved here, I don't think there was pride in ownership, it was a lot of born and raised. I'm not talking crap about the born and raised here.

Speaker 2:

Love, born and raised people, I do too.

Speaker 1:

They use great words but um it just I think there's a lot more californians here that, uh, kind of like new yorkers and similar pride and ownership, and I think that's what we're seeing. Top of that, they overbuilt, you know, 15 years ago and now we are the exact opposite. Now where we are, we're probably 10 years behind. Like we could, we could literally build a ton of homes, but the investors and the builders have gotten smarter, realizing they're getting more money building the apartment complex than building actual homes. So, yeah, it's a totally different city, even commercially, you know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I remember when we came here it was funny because I was in Zillow the other day going down like memory lane and you have to update it once in a while. And I'm, like, you know, like memory lane and you have to update it once in a while, and I'm, like you know, going to pass sales 2011. Oh yeah, forty thousand dollar condos sold, sixteen thousand on manufactured homes sold, you know, and then I had a couple four hundred thousand dollar sales. I'm like, oh, I I'm sure I was sitting like big time, you know. Now that's the average price like 475, uh. So, yeah, the city it's been really cool because we saw it, saw it maybe at its worst, you know yeah I would say so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say that time was probably one of vegas's worst times in 2008, 2009.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we're not like true locals. So I'm sure somebody may be able to dispute that, but now we're seeing one of its best, so it's really cool. I think that's why I have a lot of pride here.

Speaker 2:

I'm a worker. It's the worst we've seen it yeah, yeah, yeah, oh so we, since we relocated in 2008 I think yeah, that's the worst I saw oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and I I'm in the uh autonomy business now and I am in tech, so I do a lot of the.

Speaker 2:

Like you said, with the expansion of the roads and the buildings and everything else, vegas is becoming a smart city where they want to basically be tech savvy, take as many cars off the road as they can and have more commuter friendly, because you know, like when they built the stadium, they didn't build a huge parking lot. There are a lot of parking lots around there, but those aren't like. Eventually they just want to be able to drop people off. Move on and make it affordable for people to commute around town, especially travelers from the airport to their hotel, from the hotel to the arena, from the stadium. You know out to eat, stadium, you know out to eat, so it's affordable.

Speaker 2:

We have a lot of taxis, we have a lot of ubers, lifts and all that, but, uh, there will be shuttles, there will be autonomous vehicles. Eventually you'll see that in the next four years, if that, like next three years, you'll have autonomy shuttles like the autonomous companies here that are moving in um because of the market here and other cities too. It just helps out with traffic flow and it helps out with the pedestrian problem, where we have a lot of pedestrians that just kind of walk in the street for some reason, or other so we have a lot of yeah, you got to just be careful when you're in Vegas.

Speaker 2:

please be careful. Yeah, be careful Walking around, use the bridges, just be careful when you're in Vegas.

Speaker 1:

Please be careful yeah, be careful Walking around use the bridges, don't cross the main roads. I would say one positive that was back in 2008,. 2009 was yeah, there was like nobody on the roads, like when you and I used to party on the strip, wasn't a lot of people out? It was cheap to go party, you know. We maybe spent a hundred bucks, had a great time, that's all gone. Now it's 100 bucks for two drinks, yeah, and then the uber is another 80, uh, but uh, yeah it depends how far away from this yeah, like I live pretty close like when I first moved here.

Speaker 2:

I moved uh flamingo and uh eastern area, which was only like five minute drive to the strip so so I even had a little scooter I would drive, because back then you could get away with all that and you could navigate sidewalks. It was like a very minimal 49 CC scooter, so it wasn't anything that went above 30. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Also I like about you too is like when I first moved here. It's like we just we would go anywhere. We go Laughlin and we go to, we go to cali. I never knew where we were going. Yeah, it might be cali. And then I get in the car, we're going to laughlin. I'm like all right, but uh, where do you?

Speaker 1:

want to launch the boat from you want to we just did that a couple weeks ago, oh yeah and you'll just have this whole conversation to yourself where we're going. I just listen. There's many options there's many options.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was talking about. There's many options when it comes to Vegas, like there was a time in my life where my friend wanted me to invest in some property in Mexico and to drive to the river that was down there. It's a very secret spot for wakeboarders, real hardy. I don't know how many wakeboarders watch your thing but I'm passing lake mead.

Speaker 2:

I'm passing the underneath the black canyon river, which is amazing lake mojave I'm passing lake mojave. I'm passing laughlin needles, all that river, colorado river passing, lake havasu passing. I'm passing all this water on my way down to mexico just for like a better private ride and it's like no, you have to know locations and where you can go. Say you're a ski or something. There are hidden gems in southern utah that from vegas, you can get to pretty quickly to like snowboard and ski and have the experience of like really good snow and really good water out here. If you're in the summertime, yeah, because like in the summer, I mean you know you're either in a pool or water or you're inside. You can hike around here in the summer. But you want to go in early, get out early before the sun becomes as blue as it does.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think a lot of people adjust to it too, you know. But yeah, you're right, I mean one of the best things about Vegas like you can get anywhere in about four to six hours Real drive time too, you have Southern.

Speaker 2:

California yeah real drive time to California.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, real drive sauna, real. Yeah. So that's, that was fun for me, because I had. No, I didn't experience that growing up in New York, like everything's far away and then nothing's really that nice, but everything is just it's really cool like center you can kind of go, because I've always like when I first moved here too, I loved Vegas, vegas, but there was always not now, but I felt this 15 years ago I'm like man, it'd be cool to live in California, like it's beautiful, it's gorgeous, and then it's like at the end of the day I'm like I can drive there at any time.

Speaker 1:

I want or I could take a flight and I'm up and down in an hour, an hour.

Speaker 2:

So it's, it's's you kind of? You get the best of all worlds. Yeah, I do miss. I do miss the beach and the beach scene, but when you live in california you don't necessarily unless you're. I lived in newport beach so before I moved here, so I experienced it. Uh, a lot of californians live inland and they have to travel to the beach anyways and it's a two, three hour drive, for which should be a 20, 30 minute drive, but it can go up to like three hours. It depends on what's going on on the greatest freeways in the world. In my, or that I've experienced, the greatest freeways can get to Orange County, to Hollywood and, when nobody's on it, 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you drive, if you drive like a Californian, which most local Vegas people understand. California is if we have an open freeway, we're going to go fast. We're going to go fast because we're not used to an open freeway but we've sat in, stop and go traffic for hours just to get home from work. That's a commute that in Vegas. I haven't seen a commute like that, unless there's an accident or a road closure or something. When I'm in traffic in Vegas I'm like this is nothing. This is 30 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour, you're really not stopping unless you really have to.

Speaker 1:

It's not that bad yet I have seen it get a little bit worse over the last year.

Speaker 2:

That's why they need to build the infrastructure, yeah. I'll say about Vegas infrastructure, while you might get frustrated out here, but they're always ahead of it, yeah and um, but hey, we only got a little bit, but we got to talk you, oh yeah, congratulations last night on the la bowl for them, congrats.

Speaker 1:

Good year 11 and three they look good, and it was the new coach.

Speaker 2:

Did you see the uh fake punt? That was uh yeah, I, I caught most of the game and that fake punt that was a little shuttle pass punt, that was, uh, pretty insane I. I caught most of the game and that fake punt that was a little shuttle pass over that was.

Speaker 1:

That was fun I thought it was going for a touchdown. I was like come on big season for that. Yeah, so higher dan mullen. He used to be the coach of florida about three years ago. Um, so what do you think about the higher scc guy?

Speaker 2:

yes, I think anybody with that mindset from coming from uh sec scc yeah, I don't know all the conferences but, um, anybody with that mindset it has a winning mindset or knows the struggle. Like we said, like you have to go through the struggle to recruit, you have to go through the struggle, but it seems like they're in a really good place and they hired a professional that has the mindset to come in and change, get them to that next level, because they're in a really good place and they hired a professional that has the mindset to come in and change, get them to that next level, because they're right there.

Speaker 2:

They're right there, yeah, like they're right there, and you know the facilities are great. Now they had a ton of money go into the school. It's a med school, now they have a medical school attached to it. So UNLV itself is becoming, I think, a major player in a major university and I'd love to see them, like you know, just blossom Because they have a Legion stadium they play in, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was cool to see the end of the year because the Reno game they had over 40,000 fans Towards the end you could just see the fan support go up and up.

Speaker 1:

So it's really cool to see because you and I have gone to a ton of sam boyd games with 15 000 people and even though I had a blast doing that. But yeah, I'm excited for the new coach. It kind of is in line with the ad. You know barry odom was the sec former missouri guy. Okay, dan, uh, dan, mullen sec they can recruit from that area also.

Speaker 2:

So that's it.

Speaker 1:

The backups in sec are all mountain west. Are all Mountain West. Are all Americans? Yeah, Because I think they'll.

Speaker 2:

We got good kids here. We do. We got good athletes here.

Speaker 1:

You got to keep the kids here as well. But yeah, I loved they were talking about recruiting.

Speaker 1:

So Dan Mullen actually won at Florida and his big, the big gripe with Florida was he couldn't recruit and I looked at couldn't recruit and I looked, I was just curious because I'm kind of a football nerd, obviously I'm like I wonder what this guy did and I think he was like out of his four years there he had like three top 10 recruiting classes and won 12th. Which is kind of like notre dame-ish a big notre dame fan obviously, but we've been to a lot of usc, notre dame games.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we got a lot of those games, right, that's our annual tradition so I loved.

Speaker 1:

So they asked Dan Mullen because that's really the only gripe they've had with him and he's like you know what. Sometimes you get those three-star recruits. I recruited Dak Prescott and Chris Jones, the highest paid offensive player in the NFL and the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. So sometimes it just works out. It was the best line ever ever. I was like, oh my drop the mic.

Speaker 2:

Hey, these are guys I've recruited that were successful yeah, then they were three stars, yeah, but anyways you have to have an eye for talent.

Speaker 2:

You know, sometimes, just like in real estate, you see something that might be, it's questionable, it's not five star. Yeah, like I can make it five star, it will. It will become five-star. And that's with athletes too. You see, these three-star guys, but they have so much passion and desire and they mature from high school to college in a way that they'll put on extra weight, they'll actually gain speed. I remember when I went through it in college it was just like I couldn't believe how much weight I could gain in muscle or whatever, just from, you know, being more mature as a human, like your body's like okay, let's go. You know, instead of growing as a high school kid, you're like now ready to go into the college. And that's the thing you can get those three-star guys that have passion and make them five stars.

Speaker 1:

They'll end up being top paid guys. Yeah, I've seen too many two or three star kids that end up being some of the best players at UNLV, but we're going to wrap this up. You're a five star friend for coming on today.

Speaker 2:

Happy holidays everybody. Happy holidays 2025,. Let's go.

Speaker 1:

Are you looking to go to SC game? Hit this guy up Passionate USC fan over here. Guys, this guy up, passionate USC fan over here. Guys, this is Running Vegas. Take care of yourselves today. Happy holidays, be safe and we'll see you in 2025 2025.

Speaker 2:

Let's go, let's go, let's go.