Speaker 1: 0:14

Hey guys, the John McNamara host, running Vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. If you guys like what you see, subscribe, like us on instagram, run it vegas podcast. And today we got a special guest gary mcgowan, customer relations advisor 777 movers in the house yes, yes, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2: 0:37

john appreciate it. Yeah, as you mentioned, I am the client relations advisor for 777 movers. We are the largest family owned and operated moving company here in the state of Nevada, and I was brought on board specifically to cater to the real estate realm, since I have a background in real estate. So any of you realtors out there you need a mover, I'm your guy, that's your guy.

Speaker 1: 0:57

Great communication right here. Before we get into that, I kind of want to know a little about you. What's your background? Where are you from? Kind of let's know the audience at home. You know a little bit more about you.

Speaker 2: 1:08

Yeah, most definitely so. Born and raised just south of Detroit in Monroe, michigan, moved out here towards the end of 2018. Was in real estate back in Michigan, took my business out here to Las Vegas, was in it for seven years full time oh, wow. And yeah, I really loved what I was doing but not quite to the fullest potential and transitioned into the moving company. And then I'm also a sommelier and that is my true passion. So moving by day and wine by night, that's me.

Speaker 1: 1:35

I love it. That sounds fun Cool. I didn't know you were in real estate before, so I'm sure you learned a lot of good skills from real estate. How did that translate into this industry of 777, the moving company?

Speaker 2: 1:49

Yeah, I think that's really what is the difference maker for me and what I do and the services I provide to the agents I work with, is that I'm able to empathize with them. I was in their shoes for seven years. I know what they would want from a vendor and really, at the end of the day, it's just to take care of their people. But to be able to have that trust with the vendor is super, super important. It's their reputation on the line as well. So I really strive and I'm happy to be that person. Now that I know what it was like to want that person, I get to be that person now.

Speaker 1: 2:20

Right, well, that's great, yeah, and I appreciate it because, as you know, being in the industry as a real estate agent, we kind of get blamed for everything. So if the moving goes bad, the loan goes bad, the title, it kind of comes back on the agent. So one thing I like about you is like you're very active on your phone, you're easy to get a hold of. That makes a big difference in the moving process.

Speaker 2: 2:42

Most definitely. That still bugs me to this day the agents that don't pick up their phones. Yeah, it's still a thing.

Speaker 1: 2:48

It's gotten worse. It's crazy, but it's actually gotten worse, so cool. So how did you get into the industry?

Speaker 2: 2:55

Yeah, so the last five years I was in the business of real estate out here in Vegas. I was working under my best friend and mentor, nick Lehman, and he was really good friends with the owners of our company. They both were starting the business around the same time back in 07 08 and were a part of networking group. And as I was starting to transition out of the real estate realm, nick had a happy hour with the owners one day and he was asking him what's new, what's happening, what are you looking to do? What are you trying to grow in?

Speaker 2: 3:23

And they said we want every single real estate agent in Las Vegas when they think of a moving company. We want them to think of triple seven movers. So we want someone who's familiar with the real estate realm can go out there, let the agents know about our industry, because it's a very underserved industry and we can definitely get into that. I'd love to share some thoughts on that, but he was like oh my gosh, I have the perfect guy for you. So that's how I became to where I am today with the moving company oh, that's great okay and what would separate triple seven from other moving companies, because there's a lot out there.

Speaker 2: 3:59

So yeah, so I mean I, I love our origin story. So our owners, israeli brothers. They came here to the States. They started working for a large moving company I won't say any names but after you know eight months they realized you know this is crazy, how these customers are being treated. We could probably start this on our own. If we just treat the customers well, we could probably be successful. And that's exactly what they did. They went out and bought a truck. They were the movers. Their father and sister were working in the back office, being dispatched all that good stuff. And now we're up to four hubs across the country, 150 plus employees and continuing to grow. So I think that really just shines and shows you know from the very beginning what we stand for and what we do.

Speaker 1: 4:42

And it's paid, paid off that's great, yeah, because, just like agents, like moving companies, don't have the best reputation. So it you know, and what makes you great is you're amazing at communication. But, um, so what are some of those miscommunication? I'm sure those are probably things that you have to overcome when you're trying to get a job right. So tell us, a us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2: 5:04

100%, yeah, so just some things that are very unknown within the moving industry. So really, the only thing we have governing our laws per se is the DOT, department of Transportation, and they can be very finicky and kind of out of the picture a lot. So you have two different entities in the moving industry you have a certified carrier and you have a broker. Okay, nine times out of 10, those nightmare stories you hear about, they come from brokers. So we at 777, we're a certified carrier. What does that mean? We own all of our assets, all of the trucks, all of the movers, all of the office people. There are employees.

Speaker 2: 5:38

You're dealing with one company from start to finish, whereas a broker could be your uncle down in Florida, which is typically, if you look them up online, their address will be under Florida because that's where the laws are most lenient. They'll take a call, they'll book your move for a super low price without even really knowing what you're gonna be moving, and then they're essentially selling that move to the highest bidder. So now that customer has to deal with different truckers. Those truckers then have to go out and find movers who might not properly be trained in the industry and there's just very, very just, the contracts are not fully in depth, not explaining a lot, so it leaves a very open ended and that's where you typically hear the nightmare story. So it's super, super important Deal only with certified carriers when it comes to the moving industry.

Speaker 1: 6:26

Okay, that's good to know. Did not know that as well. So good information today. So what are the biggest challenges that you and the company kind of go through with the moving process?

Speaker 2: 6:37

For one. I kind in my realm, is just getting my face out there and known as an agent for seven years. And you know this we have people on our phone for everything. How many painters do we have? How many GCs, how many home inspectors, all that. But sitting back and realizing while I was in the industry for seven years I didn't have anyone on my phone that I could just call from a moving company that could answer any questions I have. And it's mind-boggling to me because it's one of the biggest aspects of a transaction for a client it's the actual move itself. So it's a very underserved market in my opinion. So I think that's a huge benefit to having me on board is that you have someone, you know who your customer is going to be talking to and if you have any questions or are curious about anything, you can call me up and I'm there for you.

Speaker 1: 7:23

That's what I, yeah, so this is what I love about you. So a little story on the backend we called him up and you were in our office the next day, like your pamphlets of the company, the information. You sat down with us 30 minutes kind of gave us the spiel and everything. But like I have never seen that in 20 years in the business from a moving company before It'd be like I don't know, check the yellow pages or go online. So that was really cool that you did that. And then I was like, oh, this guy's on my phone and like literally I think within a week I had somebody for you that I forwarded over to you. So it makes a big difference when you can feel comfortable giving, handing that off and then your client's going to have a good experience with somebody like yourself. That kind of takes over that because they'll, they'll, they remember everything, good or bad.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Most definitely yes, of course, Awesome.

Speaker 1: 8:11

So what's the most rewarding part of of your business and what you?

Speaker 2: 8:14

do. Oh, when I call that that customer after the move and they're just ranting and raving about how well our guys did uh, which shout out to our movers um, you know it's not an easy job what they do, especially here in las vegas in the summer months, but the majority of our guys have been with us since day one, which I think speaks volume. So you know how our owners uh handle the company and handle our employees as well. They take great care of them. Our guys love what they do. They love seeing the smiles on the customer's face at the end of the move. And just you know, at the beginning, you know tensions are high. The stress is there. Moving is not fun. They put it up there with. You know divorce and loss of a loved one as your most stressful time in life. So it's rewarding to be a part of you know, a positive part of that and take that stress off of people's shoulders stress off of people's shoulders Awesome.

Speaker 1: 9:00

And what is the logistics of all of the move actually look like? To kind of relieve that, because I'm sure it's probably a lot of prepacing, giving good information, being great with communication like you are.

Speaker 2: 9:07

So most definitely. So. You know, typically on my end I'm almost like the middleman essentially. So, as you know, real estate agents are my primary clients. They're introducing their client to me, whether through it's a group text, group call or email, and then I reach out to them, kind of just introduce myself, tell a little bit about the company and then I'll send that over to our specialists. We have direct specialists that are either for long distance moves or local moves and they are going to go super in depth and answer any questions that the customer may have. For all long distance moves and any local moves that are larger, we actually send an estimator out to the property to go over everything.

Speaker 2: 9:45

A lot of times you'll hear moving companies just get majority of things over the phone.

Speaker 2: 9:50

It's hard to really tell exactly how much stuff you're actually moving and a lot of times the customer doesn't really realize that either. So I think it's super important to actually have someone who knows this day in and day out, go out to the property, go over everything with the customer, and it really sets them at ease as well and then are also not going to be sticker shocked on day of move, cause a lot of companies will just quote you something super low to lock you in. And then, come day of move, they get all your stuff on the truck and all of a sudden that price goes up by two, three $5,000 and your stuff's on the truck. What are you gonna do? You have to pay it. So we really, really do a good job at kind of negating and getting rid of that extra sticker shock at the day of move and get that out of the way and get them to understand this is exactly what your move is gonna look like when we come to pick everything up.

Speaker 1: 10:32

Yeah, it's amazing how like easy that seems. But yeah, you're absolutely right, like that happens all the time and I'm sure, like most, the thought process I don't know, not with triple seven, but other uh you know moving companies like, well, they're most people don't move five, ten years, so they kind of get as much money out of it as possible and then if you get a bad review, whatever, you got your money, you move on. Yep, so cool. I love that. That goes a long way. Do you have a good moving story you can share? Good, bad, whatever.

Speaker 2: 11:03

Yeah, I mean. Something else I really strive on and really proud of what we do and cater to is that we don't disappear if something does go wrong. Okay, so things do happen. No one's perfect. We get that. We understand that Sometimes things will break.

Speaker 2: 11:18

We're not the type of company that we move you. You find something broken All of a sudden, you can't get ahold of us. Yeah, you reach out to us. We have no problem submitting a claim reimbursing you for any damages that have been done. Uh, we do offer um double the industry standard for insurance coverage. I will say that our guys are amazing, though it's very far and few between that we ever have any issues with things breaking. But even if they do, good story I have. We had a luxury client one time. Okay, had this super fancy rug suppose it was like a $40,000 rug, no clue what it was made of, right. But one of our movers had cut his hand open and some blood dripped on the rug, and Not just any carpet cleaner could clean this very specific rug. So we went out and we found a very specific cleaner that could handle these types of luxury rugs, had him take it back to his warehouse, clean it properly and return it, and the customer was thrilled.

Speaker 2: 12:07

So just some extra steps, that we go above and beyond. We don't disappear after the move, because we understand it's a marathon, not a sprint, and maybe you're going to be moving in five years. We want to make sure that you had such a superb experience with us that you're going to call us again.

Speaker 1: 12:20

That's great. I love that you guys are about building long-term relationships, and thanks for being vulnerable on the pot too and sharing that story, because I screw up in real life. We all screw up right at some point and it's what we do afterwards that can make all the difference in the world, and I know even myself is. Sometimes I've been able to win my clients in another way when I've screwed up or our team has screwed up, and then we double down on fixing the problem, creating solutions, and you almost build like a better bond with them in the future. So exactly.

Speaker 2: 12:51

I mean and again, you're, you're building that reputation with that client. I truly believe how you do anything is how you do everything, and word travels fast. You know, vegas is the smallest big town I've ever witnessed. Everyone knows everyone and people hear stories all the time. So we want to make sure that, even if we do, for some reason, mess up, that we're making up for it, we're fixing the issue. That way, you're less satisfied, awesome.

Speaker 1: 13:18

So what do you do? Because you're kind of front and center, right Like with us. You met us right away, which I love. So how do you get yourself out there to get business for 777?

Speaker 2: 13:28

Yeah, so basically I'm going to events offices all the time, sponsoring lunches, things like that, just getting in front of these agents to mainly honestly just educate them Because, like I said, a lot of agents don't realize everything that happens within the moving industry and that's the biggest part of the transaction most of the time. So I think it's super important and I have so much fun educating people on that aspect too. I love seeing those kind of like aha moments, especially with agents who have been in the business a long time. And when you've been in the business a long time you know a lot of those small niche things that you know most people wouldn't expect you to know. But you just kind of gain that knowledge over time. So it's fun, you know, giving a nugget or two here or there that they didn't know in the past.

Speaker 2: 14:10

I like definitely teaching is one of my favorite things to do. So educating but yeah, just getting in front of the agents Every single move that an agent sends me they're getting a gift from me afterwards. So I'm seeing them in the office quite a bit and I also like to keep it open-minded. You know, because I was an agent, I want to know or I like to think outside of the box. What do you as an agent? What are you looking for out of a vendor? Is there something you know beyond the surface level that I could provide and help you out? Let's both eat together. Let's make it a win-win situation. There's plenty enough room for all of us to be successful in the real estate world, so let's do it together.

Speaker 1: 14:47

Yeah, I love that, and you go on pods, which I like too.

Speaker 2: 14:49

So I appreciate you being on.

Speaker 1: 14:50

But yeah, I think for me, especially with vendors, because you definitely feel like you're getting sold a lot's, it's that relation building and taking the time and you did a really good job with us. You know sitting down with us, you know belly-to-belly, having a conversation, being vulnerable, being honest, that just means the world to me and that's where I'm like okay, I like this guy, we'll get you know, we'll give him a shot and then you excel, obviously. So, thank you, appreciate you, I appreciate that. So what's next for triple seven movers? Like what's if you? Obviously you guys are expanding. You guys are doing a really great job Like what's the future look like for you guys?

Speaker 2: 15:25

Yeah, so I mean, as I mentioned, we do have hubs throughout the country. So we're in Seattle, dallas-waco area and then Columbus, ohio as well. So always on the horizon, we're looking to expand. Of course, you know personally for what I'm trying to get out of it. I really, really want to get more into the commercial end of things.

Speaker 2: 15:46

Uh, find those large companies, especially it's. It's a hot spot here in vegas. We do have more of those industrial or, you know, office spaces that are moving here companies. Um, I'm actually hoping in the works we do have something can't really talk on it too much for legality purposes, but but a large business has like 400 employees that they're going to be moving here to Vegas. So I'm really looking to figure out a way to get those accounts and make it a one-stop shop for those companies and give them just a heck of a deal and make it worth their while to use us as their primary moving company for all their employees, make it a seamless transition for them, especially here in Las Vegas. But, like I said, we can cater all lower 48 states for long distance moves, so I'm open to any companies moving throughout the company in general. So definitely more of the commercial end of things is where I'm looking to wiggle my way into, for sure.

Speaker 1: 16:32

That's exciting. That's a different type of animal, yes for sure. So what are you doing differently to get that business? Because, yeah, it can be harder, you know, I know knocking on doors and stuff and talking to the right person, right, you? So what are you doing differently to kind of segue into that? You know, uh, the commercial space for for you?

Speaker 2: 16:53

yeah, really, just, uh, trying to get out there and meet the right people, or meet the right people who can get me in touch with the right people. Um, it's, it's a big world out there, and meet the right people, or meet the right people who can get me in touch with the right people. Um, it's, it's a big world out there, that's for sure. And, uh, you realize that once you start talking to people and realize, oh, I have to go talk to this person now, and then I gotta go talk to this person. So, really, uh, just word of mouth and trying to to get our image and what we do out there for people, to at least give us a chance to provide them with a proposal, kind of of discuss what we can provide them, how we differentiate from other moving companies and why they should be going with us Awesome.

Speaker 1: 17:24

Okay, great. So you know, besides 777, your job, like you know, in sales, as you know, it's like it's a big energy thing, right and have a mindset. So what do you do daily to make sure your mindset is strong, you have good energy? Because when I met you, I'm like man, this guy's got good energy. I just naturally want to work with somebody when they have good energy. So what do you do? Is that a natural thing for you or do you work on it? Tell me more about that.

Speaker 2: 17:51

It's always a work in progress, for sure. I will say one of the biggest things for me is the biggest shifts I saw in my life, both in business. Of the biggest things for me is, you know, the biggest shifts I saw in my life, both in business, relationships, everything, uh was. I read a book called the values factor and this is actually what helped me push me to transition out of real estate. Once you realize what your true values are, and then you can start planning your day to day and everything that you do revolve it around those values. And even if it's things and certain instances that you're not a fan of, you don't like doing, can you shift that mindset to put it towards what you're actually trying to accomplish or towards your values. And that was the biggest shift for me. And, like I said, it's always a work in progress. I'm nowhere near perfect and it's definitely a struggle for me, but every day I wake up I just want to tell myself do what you're going to do towards your values. Let's get closer to that last step that is going to help us feel fulfilled at the end of the day. And my values I'll share with you are creating memories and experiences.

Speaker 2: 18:49

Movement Drawing a blank here. Creating memories and experiences, movement, human connection and nature those are my values. Awesome, Even something that a lot of people don't even realize what their true values are. I thought traveling was one of my values, but it actually falls under the creating memories and experiences. So doing this podcast, this is creating a memory and experience. That's what really fulfills me. So I'm so excited to be here and do this and have that human connection with you as well. And again, that just goes right back to my values. So, no matter what I'm doing, I try to correlate it to my values and I honestly think that's how I kind of keep the energy up and always stay excited. There's always something to be happy for.

Speaker 1: 19:30

Cool, I love it, yeah so. So, what's the exercise? Because you bring up a good point. You know, even I'm going through my okay, what are my values, you know. Even I'm going through I'm like okay, what are my values, you know. So I'd love that you bring this up. What is? I know you read the book, but what are the exercises you did to like really discover this and kind of dig a little bit deeper, ask yourself the right questions, figure out your values.

Speaker 2: 19:50

So that book actually gives you the full blueprint. It puts you through a couple of different exercises where you're writing out a lot of things to really truly find out what it is. So there was a couple different exercises. In certain instances we'd ask you, you know, like, what are you thinking of in this moment when you're doing this specific thing? And then write out a list of five things and then categorize all those things and what do they fall under.

Speaker 2: 20:12

So I've always been a very active person, my whole life playing sports, growing up and then still to this day, I love being active golf, tennis, hiking, all that good stuff. So movement is definitely a very important part of my life. I feel terrible if I don't hit the gym in a week. I'm like that's my therapy. I need that. It keeps me young, it keeps me active and I truly think that has a big play on my mindset and how I perform in work as well. But yeah, I'm just a very human connection type of person. I love getting deep and going beyond surface level conversations and I think everyone should strive to be like that too, because that's where the magic really happens, even in business too, and, like you said, when you're vulnerable, good things happen. Big Brene Brown fan as well.

Speaker 2: 20:55

All she talks about is vulnerability, so big on that for sure.

Speaker 1: 20:57

Yeah, that's kind of crazy. So I think my wife is actually reading this book right now, which is, I think, the universe is telling me to read this book, and she loves Brene Brown too. So, yes, good to know. So that's, that's a cool. So tell me a little bit more, cause I'm sure you're not working all the time and, uh, you told me your values right here. What do you do for fun when you're like, you know what, I'm making all my calls, I'm meeting everybody, I'm taking over the commercial world, you know? Tell me a little bit. You know, behind the scenes, what do you do for fun to you know, fulfill those other values that you just talked about.

Speaker 2: 21:32

Yeah Well, during the day I'm with the moving company and at night I'm actually a sommelier the moving company, and at night I'm actually a sommelier, so I'm the lead sam over at monzu. We are a sicilian style scratch kitchen over there, um, so wine is definitely that is my biggest passion. I don't even consider it work, because I love it that much. There's so much that goes into it. History, science, lore, it's. It's amazing. Uh, meet some beautiful people in the industry, uh. So yeah, it's, I work outside of work, but it doesn't feel like work, that's for sure.

Speaker 1: 22:03

That's cool. Can you dive a little bit more? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know anything really about wine. I would love for you to tell me a little bit more about, or maybe some things that for me, like a novice of wine, if anything you could recommend, or a book, or Just get out there and try them.

Speaker 2: 22:18

Be open minded. Don't get stuck in a rut of only sipping on one specific wine. Be open. If you go to a restaurant and they have a sound there, utilize them. That's what they're there for. Ask them questions, pick their brains Okay, but just try more wines.

Speaker 2: 22:32

I mean, it's a beautiful, beautiful industry. I mentioned to you before the podcast. Last year I went to greece. I visited one of the wineries, um, at an old wine bar that I used to work at, we carried one of their wines. I reached out to them. Everyone in the industry is so just loving, caring and open arms. Um, and I went over there and I had a one-on-one with the owner for four and a half hours and he shared stories with me. We got to try about 20 different wines, walk through the vineyards and I left there and I was crying tears of joy because it's just such a beautiful, beautiful thing to be a part of. I mean, it's been around for a very long time and, like I said, the history and the science that's involved with it as well, and the amount of love that gets put into this product that we all get to enjoy and a lot of people just take for granted. It's a beautiful thing, so I love sharing that knowledge with people.

Speaker 1: 23:21

That's awesome. Okay, Well, I'm going to pick your brain because I need to work on that and learn more. So how did that? How did that come where? You fell in love with that? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 23:31

So around the same time that I was thinking about getting out of real estate I had already, so I lost my taste and smell for 18 months due to COVID, oh wow. And as soon as I got that back, around that same time, I was going through a pretty nasty breakup and first time being single in Las Vegas, I found myself utilizing my extra time unwisely, going out spending money partying. I was like you know what I need to do something worth of value with my extra time. I can't go down this path because I know it's a dangerous city to do that in. So, yeah, let me go out, let me try to find a part-time night gig or something.

Speaker 2: 24:05

And now that I have my senses back, I would really like to do something that revolves around my senses, because I have this newfound appreciation for them. You know, you don't, you don't appreciate what you have until it's gone, and I never thought I'd get it back. And so when I got it back, I was like I really want to do something that revolves around my senses. And wine was kind of the first thing that clicked and was kind of just applying to a bunch of different places and shout out to Kat Thomas over at Ada's. She gave me a shot and I was there for two years and, with her assistance and her passion for the wine, I just absolutely fell in love with it. Oh, wow and yeah, I'm going for my certified exam in on June 25th this year. So so keep trying to level up and just increase that knowledge of mine and share the love I have for it with everyone else that comes through our doors.

Speaker 1: 24:46

Love that. Congrats. That's exciting, thank you. Did your senses change at all or just you got like more in tune with yourself? I would definitely say more in tune.

Speaker 2: 24:55

I mean thankfully, like there was only two things that you know tasted kind of off for me. Uh, it was, uh, I guess, three, but it was like ranch sour cream and Dr Pepper, which, coming from the Midwest, we put ranch on everything, so that that was pretty hard, but it's pretty much gotten back. I've just trained myself to eat a lot at work. I'll take a sip of Dr Pepper every day to just kind of get that back, and it's, it's pretty much there, but I do feel like they have been heightened since I got them back, for sure. Okay, whether they're actually heightened or I'm just paying attention to them more, who knows, but I'm enjoying it cool.

Speaker 1: 25:27

And you said you're from the Midwest, detroit, so that must have been a really big move to come out to Las Vegas. So you know, tell us a little bit more about that, because you know I've had front. When I first moved here, everybody in the midwest like hated vegas. They thought everybody was like, you know, stuck up, mean, and I'm coming from new york where everybody's just kind of mean, so I thought everybody was nice here. Yep, but how was that for you? Because you seem like you're talking about when, before we got in the pod, we were talking a little about vegas. And tell me more about that. You know what you like about Vegas, the transition from Detroit to Vegas. Let me, I would like to hear more about that. Yeah, most definitely so.

Speaker 2: 26:03

I was about 30 minutes south of Detroit, from a very small town and you know it. Just I felt like I was. I was boxed in a bit. I didn't feel like there was a lot of room for growth there and I knew I wanted to get out. And obviously, you know Midwest, those winters are brutal and the summers can be pretty brutal as well, with the humidity and getting up there and the temperature. So I told myself, you know what, it doesn't matter. If it doesn't work out, I can always move back, because we actually we had a chocolate, fudge and ice cream shop back there in Michigan that I essentially ran from age 16 to 21.

Speaker 2: 26:33

Um, but I was like you know what, I don't want to be stuck here. Yeah, I don't want to be stuck here, I don't want to feel like I'm stuck there. It's no diss to my hometown, I still love it but I just felt like I needed to get out and explore the world. I started doing some traveling and that's really what opened up my mind and I said I need to get out there and at least give it a shot. So I was applying to jobs anywhere and everywhere. I actually got accepted for a Lululemon manager position in New Zealand. A Lululemon manager position in New Zealand, but couldn't get the visa worked out in time. Oh, new Zealand would have been cool.

Speaker 2: 27:00

We were supposed to actually go to college here in Las Vegas, okay, but that ended up not working out, but then got offered a job position out here and said let's do it. So I moved out here to Vegas and it was the best decision I've ever made in my life. This city is absolutely amazing. Just in the six and a half years I've been here, it's mind-blowing how much it is exploded and expanded. It's so exciting to be here and watch the city become a real city and continue to grow. We're getting the sports teams in the food scene here is unreal and, honestly, the foodie.

Speaker 2: 27:32

Oh, big foodie, big foodie. Of course I like wine. I gotta be in there.

Speaker 1: 27:35

So but I got like restaurants. Oh, most stuff obviously shout out to Manzu and Ada's those are. I gotta be into the food as well, I assume. So you have any good like restaurants?

Speaker 2: 27:39

that you're Most definitely I mean, obviously, shout out to Manzu and Ada's. Those are my true homes right there. Definitely got to visit those. Esther's Kitchen, which is a part of Ada's sister restaurant, anima love Anima by EDO Excellent spot as well. Ferraro's love them. They're always hosting some great classes. They're uh, nataya's uh, secret kitchen amazing thai food. There's so many. I could be all right. Just about the restaurants here in vegas um yeah, spirit wolf, I mean, oh my, they're amazing. And, honestly, the service and the experience that you get off strip nowadays. I really see this shift happening. Yeah, it's so much worth it. Like that, compared to the strip, you don't have to worry about dealing with all the craziness down there. The prices, yeah, the Off Strip scene right now in the food industry here in Las Vegas is exploding and I am absolutely here for it. I absolutely love it. The people that are in the industry, they truly care about it.

Speaker 1: 28:33

They want to bring this experience to the city as it continues to grow and it's an exciting part to be a part of yeah, for sure we get spoiled here because it's all the time like I'll go to utah, wherever right, california, and the service just kind of sucks everywhere, you know. So we are spoiled here, that is for sure we are. But yeah, and I love just hearing other people because I have such. I love vegas and we have similar stories, not exactly exactly the same, but coming from upstate New York, not the city, I'm from Albany, new York, it's a. It's a small city, tri-city area and just having the sun and just talking about your like it sounds like our values are actually very much aligned. Love nature, movement, going on walks that's one thing I love about Vegas. You can go on trails, you can hike. There's just so many amazing things to do and you know so many close places you can.

Speaker 2: 29:24

You're four hours away from everything exactly yep, that and I like, yeah, with nature being, you know, one of my values it is. There's so many beautiful hikes around the whole valley here and in itself, but yeah, you're four hours from the beach, four hours hours from the big mountains, it's perfect.

Speaker 1: 29:39

Awesome. Well, hey, man, we're running out of time here. Thank you so much for being on. I really appreciate you. If you guys are looking for a move here in the future, hit this man up. Gabriel. Appreciate you. Guys, this is Ron in Vegas. Take care of yourselves today.