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RUNNIN' VEGAS - The John McNamara Podcast
Talking local sports, business and real estate.
RUNNIN' VEGAS - The John McNamara Podcast
Shaun Marion's Journey Through 27 Years of Las Vegas Real Estate
hey guys, the john mcnamara host running vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. You guys like what you see today. Follow us, subscribe on running vegas podcast. And today we got a special guest, oh, special guest, mr sean marion, local real estate agent in the house. What's up, john?
Speaker 2:how you doing. Good dude, good man. Thank you for being on.
Speaker 1:It's an honor and a privilege.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've, uh, we've known each other for a while it's been a while I was trying to think about how far back it's gone. It's probably a good. What 10 years? I think yeah, probably in that ballpark Around that. A good 10 years.
Speaker 1:And we catch up probably about once a year. Yeah whenever we see each other. Yeah, so I'm excited to hear about all the new stuff. In the last five years, we'll see we used to work at the same brokerage, so yeah, so that's all good. Let's get a little background on you, sure, your story, where you're from.
Speaker 2:how'd you get into the real estate industry? You got it, man, let's do it. So, yeah, I've been, um lived in vegas. I've been now here for 43 years, so pretty much grew up here. Um moved here from dallas, texas, when I was a little kid, nine years old, you know, did the finished up elementary school, middle school. Just saw my middle school, garside Junior High, is being torn down. That's how long you know when you've been in town for a long time and your schools are starting to get torn down. And then you know Bonanza High School. And then, you know, did a little UNLV, unr, back and forth.
Speaker 2:But Vegas has been home, it's home, still is home and love it here. And real estate was always kind of in the back of my mind. My mom, actually, you know you see people flipping homes now she was doing that in the early 80s here. Oh wow, buying houses on the courthouse steps, cash, I mean, if I I'd have to ask her, I mean probably paying, you know, ten thousand dollars for homes, 20, you know, something like that. But I remember being inside of those houses that 2009?
Speaker 2:yes, yes exactly right, yeah, it could be. Could equate um, the numbers were about the same, um. But yeah, so I that was always there and, believe it or not, I went into. I went into school at UNLV with a finance major and the University of Nevada school system. The university system offered a real estate minor.
Speaker 1:Now look.
Speaker 2:I never did anything with my college, I didn't even get a degree. I just couldn't figure it out. It is what it is. But my now ex-wife actually I've known her for quite a while she had her real estate license and I didn't know you could just go to a real estate school and get your license. So I came back from Reno for my second time of not really making any progress in college and went into real estate school school, got my license and just started building the business. So it's been 27 years.
Speaker 1:I saw that yeah, crazy man, it's like that experience yeah well it's.
Speaker 2:It's one of those things where it's like I'm proud of the time I've spent in the business. I've seen so much and and done a lot and it's like one of those things I gotta you gotta be cautious of like, hey, 27 years, I know what. We're learning stuff every day still, Especially with AI today, For sure. I mean just everything, even the deals. Even the deals, we learn new things. So I'm proud of the time I've been in the business and know that there's still a lot to do. Yeah, Well, that's what. I've been in the business and know that there's still a lot to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, that's why I've always liked about you, because you're you've been in the business 27 years. I've been in the business 20 years, but something about you is like you've always had to like. I mean, that's in like a good way, like a young energy about you. Yeah Right, where you're very growth minded, which I appreciate, because I'm the same way Sure, way sure, because this business there's not like it's. It's cool that have somebody has a little bit more experience than me yeah, because there's not a lot of us.
Speaker 1:You know there's not, or I'm 42, but I've been this 20 years, but I feel like a dinosaur in real estate 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you talk to people that and there's people doing the big things that have been licensed very short periods of time, the way that the industry is, you know, you, how much you can be educated and be taught, you know. I mean, we learned a lot when we were brand new in the business, but you were taught pretty basic standard ways of doing business. And now it's, you know it's basically you can be taught how to ramp up and go from five deals to 500 deals in a few years. We watch it happen all the time. So I know that. You know there there is there's a lot of of different ways, and that is the why I do love this industry too. Yeah, just because it can be reinvented.
Speaker 1:You know, believe it or not, it's not just one way of of doing it. Well, when you and I got in the business, if you did like 46 to deals, you were like 0.01 percent top producing agent in the business for sure. And now it now it's like you do a thousand deals you're 0.01%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly right, there's a whole, there's systems.
Speaker 1:There's marketing, there's branding, and it just keeps evolving and it keeps moving in that direction.
Speaker 2:So well. And the thing about you know, when I started probably when you started teams weren't really much of a thing, right? You know real estate teams are, are, are the big thing these days, you know. And you know learning by being on a team. I mean I was fortunate enough, I had some great mentors early on in the business, but there wasn't that team mentality. I would work for, you know, some top agents or basically by doing some work in their office, but I was never part of their team. And now it's.
Speaker 2:I mean I would suggest anybody getting into this industry join a team. You know, get right on a team, because what you're going to learn, how quickly you'll learn and how quickly you'll get moving in this business. You know the, we know the, you know I. I have been in the management side of real estate for the last eight years actually would be this month, but stepped away from that. But watching on the management side and watching agents come into this full of energy, full of excitement, and then less than a year later out of the business, it's tough because I know what that piece of paper, that real estate license, what it can do for someone if they're willing to push through all the crap you have to push through to get there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you get some really good advice because, as you know, it's 96 of people are out of the business in the first 18 months and I agree with you because I think you and I have a very similar philosophy is I would recommend not necessarily our team, but interview teams yeah and see what's a good fit for you. That is a great way to break into the business Because unfortunately a lot of brokerages now they don't have the resources or the money for the training anymore.
Speaker 2:It's gone away when I got in business.
Speaker 1:there was a whole training program and there's a prospecting room, but the brokerages would take 50% and nobody talked about it, it was the norm.
Speaker 2:You signed up and you were okay. And it's amazing to me, I mean again, when I interview, when I was interviewing, uh, running the brokerage, my job was to grow the office. I was meeting with new agents and early on it was easy and we it wasn't 50, 50 splits, you know it, but it was. It was still decent sized splits and agents didn't question it. And now it's like their whole thing is what do you charge? What do you charge Instead of? Well, what about that? The information I just gave you and the value that I'm showing you? But so many agents get wrapped up into the cost yeah, and I appreciate that. And cost, it means nothing if you're not in the business in a year.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You need to learn and it takes you at least two years just to kind of get good at it. For sure, most definitely. And that's always once I know when I'm interviewing agents for our team, the biggest red flag for me is hey, what are the costs? Because I already know they're probably not growth-minded.
Speaker 2:Exactly right. They're not looking at what am I going to get by being on the team? How quickly am I going to get it into production? They're totally focused because when they close that first deal and they get that first commission check, the first thing they're going to start doing is like how come I'm only getting this Instead of wow, look what I just learned. Look at the support I got from the team. I probably wouldn't have had that deal without being on the team. But their mind doesn't go there. Yeah, and it's. It's frustrating, but again, that's why it's about the individual and, like I said, love that you take your time with your interview process. Yeah, you want to make sure you've got the right people on your team for sure.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's about quality versus you know quantity most definitely, most definitely most important question, though I can ask you let's go, let's go entire pot. Okay, let's go. Are you a unlv guy or are you a unr guy?
Speaker 2:you, know, uh, I'm a unlv guy, you know, and it was. I was about to add yeah, no right, I know, I know what this is called I know where.
Speaker 1:I know where I'm at.
Speaker 2:I know where I'm at it's funny, you know definitely was. It's funny, you know definitely was. You know I was a, you know, wolfpack fan back in the day, you know going up to school and of course, back when UNLV football wasn't a whole lot in the in that, you know, mid nineties timeframe UNR was doing pretty good but always have been that UNLV. You know running rebel fan and you know it's it's it's it know it's always a great thing to follow them and watch them. You know when they can figure something out and do some good stuff.
Speaker 1:The last two years have been good with football.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly right, I mean watching their, you know, watching this whole city evolve has been awesome. And I think giving you know, giving the football team an amazing field to play on, you know, going out to the Silver Bowl all those years.
Speaker 1:I miss it.
Speaker 2:Look, it was a blast it was so much fun, I mean, if you went out and made sure that you were going to a game, going to the tailgate. It was fun. Tailgate was fun, it was.
Speaker 1:Tailgate's changed, when now you're chilling at Mandalay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly right, 100% different. You've seen all the drunk swaps exactly. But yeah, I think I mean giving them. Giving them an ability to have a better recruiting class and everything else. When you have a cathedral that you're playing in, you know, compared has been awesome, so yeah, I didn't really invest in the program.
Speaker 1:I kind of joke because I I root for you and ours as long as they're not playing us 100. Yeah right, my wife actually went there so okay and it's cool too, because they I don't know if you know this they're building a new arena for reno. Uh, so that's going to be, I think, in two years. Oh well, I actually didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Uh, gsr, so it was called oh yeah, yeah, they're gonna have another tower. That's right I did.
Speaker 1:Okay, just got approved so and they have a new practice facility for football.
Speaker 2:So that program's, uh, it'll I think it's funny how, like the reno and the unlv like I kid about it yeah, I actually think it's good for both programs to continue to grow like yeah, I mean I think actually a lot of you know the a lot of the attention has come to unlv lately, you know, and it's kind of fallen off of unr a little bit and they've always been back in the chris alt days and everything when they were just a powerhouse. Yeah, um, you know it was, it's, it's. It's good to see. I want to see them both get back into into and a contention. It'll be awesome. I miss the rivalry right. Oh, that's percent was huge, the firm and was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I came out because I've been here for 17 years, I'm close with how long you been there, but it was switch right. It was you leave, football would get destroyed, reno every year and the basketball we would win and then Reno uh, didn't have a very good program. Yeah, now it's reversed 100% it's a basketball program.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, we have the football program.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hopefully we get basketball, because I think, we're a basketball town at the end of it yeah, and it's crazy to me that we have an NFL team, a hockey team, and we don't have a good college basketball, or you know it could be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can but we have a lot of basketball fans in this town right and it's crazy that it hasn't really been taken advantage of.
Speaker 2:No, I know it's it's we're the town's fighting to get it. I know it's going to happen soon. Uh, you know, I think that obviously a pro team coming, an nba team here, will even drive the the. You know the college aspect, I think in a big way. Um, you know, I love that. Going back to a little bit, I love the fact that you know the college aspect, I think in a big way. Um, you know, I love that.
Speaker 2:Going back to a little bit, I love the fact that you know the short period of time. I mean, okay, 17 years or 20. How long you've been here? 17 years, man, you, you treat this like it's your hometown. I love that. I know you're a back East kid and and I, but I love that people embrace this city as their own. Um, that's what I love about it.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, watching what this city has become, I mean even the time that you've been here, I mean it's, it's amazing, being I've always been a fan of this city, I love it to death. And it's funny because I just never saw anything other than maybe the NFL working here, team wise. I just saw. You know you watch, we watched. You know UNLV go from. You know the powerhouse in the 90s and then when they fell off a little bit, you know Thomas and Mac would empty out, you know, and that kind of thing, and then we'd, okay, pick it back up in the late 90s, early 2000s, it would fill up and then it would empty out again. I was like this transient town just can't keep supporting a team, you know. So what's going to work? A team that plays a game every two weeks in town, you know, for eight total home games. But you know what bill foley just said screw that. I'm like I'm going to prove to you that nhl can work here and so that's completely obviously changed this city yeah, and it totally did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it gave us. You know it was. We're lucky hockey was the first. Yeah, because I don't know if hockey would have worked out if it didn't go the way 100%, if it wasn't the first franchise. And October 1st happened, because before that, like you said, transient town and there was a big switch in our community where we started talking to each other and like the total community and we rallied around the Knights and we started all talking about Knights with each other. Oh my gosh, but it's funny how sports can bring a community together, because before that there wasn't.
Speaker 2:If you only wasn't good nobody was talking to each other.
Speaker 1:We had nothing to talk about yeah, I'm a Celtics fan, you're a Dodgers fan whatever it is right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're all over the place. So yeah, you're trying, you're shooting for something, to find, you know, a common ground, sports wise, but yeah it's. I mean I loved hockey. I mean, again, I was here in the in the 90s when, you know, the, the Thunder were here and a friend of mine had had season tickets and I was like what the hell is hockey? And it was. It was awesome just to go to Thomas and Mac and watch that, but that was short lived. And then go to thomas and mac and watch that, but that was short-lived. And then, but to see it and and it has just completely changed this city, it's crazy. It's crazy what, what a sports, what sports can do yeah, and we're.
Speaker 1:The cities continue to grow and I always felt probably like, yeah, I'm, like I it's gonna work here. Yeah, and my only. My biggest thing was always and it was always a shock, because we got so much pushback right from nationally, like vegas is never gonna work?
Speaker 1:yeah, no way and I, it was always in the back of my head like if, because you, as you know, right, whatever your team is right, yeah, you always look for that one away game. Yeah, oh sure, for sure. And what game? If you're nfl, nhl, whatever it is, yeah, and you see vegas on the schedule. They're showing up. What game are you going to? Because vegas, well, vegas isn't cheap anymore. No, no, but either way, it's probably cheaper than going other places.
Speaker 1:But you come to here, you party, you go to a raiders game. It's like 60, 40 raider fans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have a lot more like away fans now for knights games not in the beginning they had like a policy against in the beginning yeah, well, you get a show, though I mean you can yeah it's different the show. Yeah, I mean you say it is the. You listen to the, the, the um commentators on the hockey games and they're like there is no place in this country and in canada obviously too that puts on a show like vegas does for nhl. You know, it's just insane and people show up for that.
Speaker 1:So same with Raiders. They have like a rock concert at halftime it's.
Speaker 2:You got a DJ playing. You got a DJ's up in the booth and you got the whole thing going on.
Speaker 1:If you're just like the average show fan, it's great like. If you're like like I'm a football enthusiast so I went to like a Broncos game my brother a couple years back and I'm like like that's just the old school football hot dog right, you know, like sandboy stadium yeah, but it's evolved and I think in a good way.
Speaker 2:I think in a good way, most definitely it is well again, it gets more people attracted to it and you know it's, it's something that will. We're a show show city, you know it's, we're all about that, so we're always going to add the showmanship to it, no matter what.
Speaker 1:Yeah so let's get back into real estate, let's do it it. You were in management for eight years. I was, I was and now you're back in production, I am. I am Tell us a little bit about that because management leadership is super tough. It's a totally different animal versus being an agent in production. Most definitely. So give me the good, the bad, whatever you want to talk about.
Speaker 2:You know it was an opportunity that was afforded to me by the owners of our company. I was, you know, again at the time, licensed for, you know, 18 years, something along those lines, 19 years and I was, you know, approached by my owner to say, hey, would you like this opportunity? And I think I was just looking for something different. You know had come out of a pretty solid producing team that I had and was looking to continue growing, you know, full transparency went through a divorce, which was not easy, and I think it was just looking for what's that next step? And again, I wasn't going to be outside of real estate. So I took this on, and I took it on selfishly, to be honest. It was like what can I get out of this? How can I increase my skills as a leader? How can I increase my skills in the real estate industry? And you know, with Keller Williams, which you know, even at the time, was the largest real estate company in the world, basically, and when you have a, you have a group of leaders in the ownership of everything of this company that pours into the people that are managing their individual offices. So I came into it to learn and and it was. I learned a ton. It was a great run.
Speaker 2:The job of running a Keller Williams brokerage is growth. I mean, we all know you're running a team, you're running a brokerage, whether it's Keller Williams or any. It's all about growth, whether you're growing with agents, your business, your production, whatever that looks like. But it was that it was managing staff, it was knowing the finances of a brokerage. I mean it was my job was basically running uh 150 to 200 agent team, because that's what my job was, and so I looked at I got to know the finances of how our brokerage works. I got to know the, the ins and outs. You know money wise and and and talking to agents. And I got to coach agents. I mean you, you were one of them uh, you know, just to have good coaching conversations, business conversations with amazing agents was super valuable and I got to do that with agents throughout the whole Southwest region and things along those lines. Um, really ran it. You know, obviously went through COVID, through this and through different leadership uh, within our region, because the people that are leading us changed and that would kind of reinvigorate me.
Speaker 2:There were a handful of times I had my foot out the door, the management side. I'm like just get me back into sales. You know I don't have dealing with agents. Look, we're agents, but agents are babies, just that's just. This is the way it is, yeah, when you're babysitting them and when you and agents are not employees. So it's making sure that our agents are happy, because all I have to do is walk in and say, hey, I'm out. You know, I'm going somewhere else where I think I'll be happier or make more money.
Speaker 2:So it was just a constant. You know it's constantly. How can I make this brokerage better? But I learned a ton from it and I loved every moment that I had in it in terms of what I got out of it. But again, some certain things kept me coming back in. I would have to toe out, reel back in a little bit and about a little less than a year ago I made the true, conscious decision I'm out, I'm ready to be done. But again, have a lot of ties to my brokerage, love the ownership, and I wasn't going to just going to leave them in the lurch. So gave notice. But I said take your time, find my replacement. Uh, it's not something. You just go walk off the street and go find someone and hopefully and we actually went through a couple of people, uh, that didn't quite work out, we actually went through a couple of people that didn't quite work out and finally we found a great replacement and it's actually an agent that was in our office and so it's been great.
Speaker 2:But you know what? I miss sales, I miss selling real estate, I miss it every day and I miss the. I do miss the freedom. You know I wasn't, you know, locked into my office, you know, as the team leader or manager of the office, but at the same point I treated it as a job. I was at the office between seven and eight every day. I would usually not leave until after five o'clock. So I treated it as such. I wasn't going to take advantage of the role, and so that was tough when you're a real estate agent even though I treat real estate as a job that flexibility, just when you're used to it, you know it's tough to. It's tough to give that up and not have it.
Speaker 2:So, man, it's been great. It's been really about three, four months since I've fully been back into the sales side. You know everybody's asking all right, you're growing your team, what are you doing Everything you've learned and right now I'm I've been kind of enjoying the first few months of getting back into it. You know, I've got some pretty decent goals for this year and at the same point there are goals that I feel I can do on my own, without jumping really back into growing a team just yet. It will be something that will be on the horizon, but right now it's let's sell some real estate, let's get back into it, let's rebuild some systems and see where this year goes. So it's been awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know our story is not too dissimilar because when you became team lead, I was kind of going through the same thing too. You know, like man, like I've been doing this for a while. Yeah, ready to mix it up, I almost became a real estate um coach for a company and I decided I still want to really go hard in sales and decided to make decision to build a team. Yeah, there you go and I didn't have a team of 200 250, but it got up to like 10.
Speaker 1:And then just everything you're saying it like came to light. It was like, yeah, there was less freedom. You know, your, your, your ego get hit, you get humbled through leadership, because it's a completely different set of skills than going and selling and buying real estate. But I think for at least for myself I was definitely ignorant in the beginning of it, like I'm good at at selling real estate I'll be a great team leader.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on, everybody, come work for me, right? It's all good, which was good to do.
Speaker 1:That's good because I was recruiting everybody you were, but uh, it took me probably good five years to really hone in the leadership skills and it's just leadership, it's just one of those things you have to constantly work on because it's it's like top and accountability. You know having a great mindset, you know showing like, being kind of showing up on time. Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2:You can't just even when you don't even when you don't feel like it, you have to show up. You're the guy in charge and and you're. They look to you and the agents are looking to you and uh, and so it, and so it was. It's exactly right. I mean, it's a. It's not always the easiest road to go, but uh, but there's a lot. You get a lot of fulfillment out of it. But I've watched you, I've watched your evolution, I've watched you, like you said you had a, you had a big team at once. You guys were humming and then you know, look, it's people get the agents on your teams, getgos. They're like well, what do I need john anymore? Right, what do I? He's taught me what I need to know. Let me go off and they figure out very quickly.
Speaker 2:Typically how they had a pretty good then they usually don't have the balls to come back and say, hey, I was wrong right don't you, you know, even though they should you know, because they did and we had some good runs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it was, but it's been. Know, watching you kind of become more of a quality over quantity has been awesome Because, like you said, you're going to, you have to choose what's going to be, what's going to be your fight every day. You know, and that's the side of it too. It's like selling real estate is, like I said, it's enjoyable, it can be, and again, coming back into it, even in a very short period of time, it's fun, it really is. It's not, it's not hard.
Speaker 2:I think agents make it hard and and and I understand the hard part is the lead generation and finding business, especially if you're new, um, and at the same point, once you you've you've got it and you've create, you know, great relationships, man, it's easy because you're helping people out and, I'm not going to lie, you make a great amount of money doing it and there's a lot that comes with that and the freedom that does come with it, and so I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:You said earlier I appreciate you mentioning look, I'm 52 years old, but I'm always going to lead with good, younger energy, you know, cause that's that's a number, and I, I like to, I like to have way too much fun to act like I'm. You know what 52 used to be, maybe 20, 30 years ago. So it's like I've got a lot of time still in this business and I want to find out where it is that I want to go, and that's what I'm, I think, is this year is going to figure out for me big time good, so what if you don't mind?
Speaker 2:sharing what are specifically?
Speaker 1:what are those goals for 2025-2026?
Speaker 2:yeah, right now I mean coming into it. It's and again I and I'm not going to make excuses in any way my goal when I was looking at coming out of leadership last year when I'd given my notice and was expecting around November, december to really hit the ground running and make things happen and then kind of got reeled back in a little bit it delayed that, but my goal was to get back up to about 30 transactions this year. I mean running my brokerage. I was still on average selling, you know, on about 12 homes a year is probably an average. There was one year I think I sold, you know, with some assistance. You know, with some showing assistance, always have a transaction coordinator, things like that. I think I sold like 17, 18 homes.
Speaker 2:You know, running a brokerage full time and not really being out in the field. And you know, and again, being in the industry, as long I'm not tooting a horn but you build relationships, you have great referral partners in business coming in, so I was able to have that. So I know that getting back to you know 30 units with adding some very specific systems and being in the field every single day is not impossible and so and that again gets me back to a point of replacing a salary, because I was a salaried employee. So I'm replacing that and coming back into, you know, increasing that commission base right there, and so that gives me and I can do that without necessarily working 60 hours a week. It's, you know, again, I've I'm not quite there on terms of my average closings, since I've been in for the last, say, three months full time, but I'm getting. I'm not quite there on terms of my average closings since I've been in for the last, say, three months for full time. Um, but I'm getting. I'm close and and I'm doing it with, you know, again, treating it like a job, showing up to the office every day, but at the same point, if I decide to maybe leave at two in the afternoon or go have some lunch with some friends or go out, you know, or do something, it's, it's not this, it's not a nine to five. Here you go, you know. So I've been enjoying the freedom and flexibility as well as the growth side of it. So it's pretty exciting, that's great. Yeah, moving forward, let's see.
Speaker 2:You know, I think if I really get to a point of hitting those numbers this year, then more than likely with that growth it's going to be, you know, it's going to either be adding to the team, something along those lines or do I look at what can I really do to increase my baseline sales price? How do I increase my you know, my net sales price to where I can sell the same amount of homes and make more money, you know, but not taking really more time? So, looking at different things again, this is where I'm looking at what can I learn this year that I don't know? And I know there's a ton out there. Trust me, it's not like, oh, I have to go figure that out.
Speaker 2:But what do I want to specifically learn that I maybe don't know from my years in the business? That I can learn from others, and that's where I'm kind of on that journey right now of having a lot of great conversations, talking to a lot of great agents, both here and around the country and things like that. So that's been kind of exciting as well.
Speaker 1:Oh good, yeah, it's good that you're taking that time for yourself to see what does make sense, because if it doesn't, it's never going to work, work. But if you find something that clicks, yeah, well, that's what's gonna get me excited, capable, yeah, what's gonna make it, what's gonna get me excited to come to work every day?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know what's going to change. You know it's yes, I love selling real estate, but what's what different can I do? You know what? How can I tweak what I do on a daily basis to say, all right, I'm getting up and going to work today and I'm pumped about it, and I'm pumped about who I get to help, so I'm excited about that for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm excited for you. That's awesome. Well, besides real, estate.
Speaker 2:What do you do for fun, man? Fun is I'm all over the place but, like I know, like you're saying, man, music is life. I love music, you know, it's my, you know my, I'm fortunate. My wife now is my best friend and her and I, when we do things, you know, we do things together and it's awesome. But we, we, we, we love to travel. We love to travel for music. You know, I know you do this. I loved your guys's pod about, about music festivals and things like that. We're, we're pretty regulars to those. You know, love to take advantage of what the city has to offer and spend a lot of time downtown and the arts district, things like that. But you know, that's it's really like, hey, what, what's that next? You know, adventure, we can go on, whether it's here in town or somewhere out of town, we'll be. We literally like, hey, let's go to Mexico, you know, over July 4th weekend, last week.
Speaker 1:So that's in the works, you know. So you got to keep it fun, right, because we work hard and you got to have those goals so you can keep, you know, keep it going. So yeah too, man. So hey, I'm uh, thank you for being on. Pleasure having you on you did good job and I'm super excited you get it back into production. If you guys are looking for a great agent Chancher man, hit this man up. This is Running Vegas. Guys, take care of yourselves today, thanks.