Speaker 1: 0:13

Hey guys, John McNamara host Ron in Vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. If you guys like what you see, subscribe, follow us. On Ron in Vegas podcast. Stay up. You guys like can you see? Subscribe, follow us. I'm ron and vick's podcast. Today we got a special guest, mr awesome star in the house thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2: 0:35

Always love doing this, thank you man, I appreciate you former rebel, I know like we're what like?

Speaker 3: 0:41

a month or two away, two months, maybe a month and a half away from it'll be basketball end of October, right end of October yeah, but I can't help myself to talk a little well that's why I'm here, right? Yes, sir, you're the expert, I'm just the fan. So all right, let's get into it. So today we're talking youiv basketball preview for the upcoming season. Yeah, and we want your, your, uh, your thoughts. So question number one what do you think of the pastner hire?

Speaker 2: 1:11

I think it was really good. He has a. He has a past of um. You know, winning, so that's, that's that's important um. But, you know, getting to know him a little bit more, um, I've been a couple times now talk to him. Uh, just ran into him actually two days ago at the grocery store, so awesome um. I've been a couple times now talked to him. Uh, just ran into him actually two days ago at the grocery store, so awesome um no, he's a really good.

Speaker 3: 1:29

You're gonna be on ron in vegas today.

Speaker 2: 1:31

Yeah, yeah for sure, um no, he's a really good guy. Um, he seems to have a lot of energy, he seems to have a lot of drive and you know what's coming up in this season. Um, so, yeah, I think I think it was a good hire. I'm really excited to see what he does with this team Me too, yeah it was kind of interesting.

Speaker 3: 1:46

When they first hired him I don't think most fans were like eh Pastner, but then you get to see his energy and this recruiting class is crazy Like I can't remember.

Speaker 3: 1:59

We're going to get more into it but, like a more talented class, since you've been on the running rebels, excuse me. So, um, I like his energy. I love this is something that's not really talked about a lot defensive minded yes, you know, san diego state has that figured out. You know that's what univ has not had figured out over the years. So I'm excited for that defensive minded kind of guy.

Speaker 2: 2:21

So yeah, yeah, I'm really excited um, he has a lot of the, the people in place to actually make that happen.

Speaker 3: 2:29

So yeah, tell us more about that. We got some old yeah, the last time you're on the show we talked about old you know uh running rebels coming back and we were kind of like you know, will it actually happen? And he's put to me up. He's putting the right people in place. I I love it yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:45

I mean, justin Hawkins came down from UNR. He was a coach up there. So he was a really good player, turned out to be a really good coach up at UNR. That's why he hired him down here. But I think not even just on the bench staff. I think that outside of that and the administration side of it, they they did hire Stacey Augman. Um, so I think that is, you know, going to kickstart a lot of the old rebels coming back and kickstart a lot of them, you know joining in with this team and kind of showing how the old runner rebels did things.

Speaker 3: 3:20

Yeah, I love it. It and he is his title as director of community. Do you know? Community engagement? Yeah, so, um, do you know, like, exactly what his role is going to be? Um, I don't, not to the details aspect of it.

Speaker 2: 3:36

But, um, obviously, the community engagement side of it for his old teammates, um, for the older you know, older people that older people that have established this school and grew this school and made the Running Rebels the way that they are They've been meeting, they've been getting together A lot of the people outside of like in the community just bringing them and, as you know, we have the Raiders, we have the Aces, we have all these different teams that the community gets behind. So we're trying to bring them back to you.

Speaker 3: 4:08

Yeah I think it's going to do a lot, and that's something that's like really unheralded too. The other day they announced that um, anthony marshall, too, is going to be yeah I love it.

Speaker 3: 4:18

Yeah, because that's when I started watching you'll be basketball, yep and I. I loved his attitude, just for a culture aspect. Those three guys, they had great mindsets. They were defensive minded. I'm like, what great mentors for the younger kids coming in and let's talk about that, because the roster is completely overhauled from last year. Yeah, but the one thing I noticed most of the guys coming in are defensive minded and they can a lot of them can shoot too. He brought in some shooters, but what's your thoughts? I mean, it's basically a completely new roster and it's seems like my opinion it's upgraded in terms of talent yeah, I do.

Speaker 2: 4:58

I do agree with you that it has been upgraded as far as the talent aspect of it transfer from from Alabama, transfer from Illinois, a lot of young talent, mason from Coronado coming in.

Speaker 3: 5:11

Yeah, do you know, mason? I do yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:13

Yeah, I think I think he'll. He'll add a lot of. He's a good shooter, he's he's tall, he's he's lengthy and he's pretty athletic. So I think that he'll add that piece to it. But their transfer's coming in, I think that they can make an impact right away for the experience side of it. But you know, meshing the team together and seeing how that looks, I mean I feel like that's going to be the biggest key to making things work.

Speaker 3: 5:37

Yeah, I agree with you. That was the next question is yeah, what is going to be their biggest challenge?

Speaker 3: 5:43

and I think it's going to be chemistry, and because you're, everybody is learning each other so you kind of saw with you know the football this year there were like two-thirds of the roster. I mean, you know the basketball is 100% overturned, which I think utah state has successful season. About two, three years ago they did it, but before utah state it was like unheard of and now this is almost like the new norm and I agree with you, I think it's going to take a little time for them to gel. It's like, and how long does that take? Does that take two games? Does that take 18 games?

Speaker 3: 6:15

yeah you know it's a, it's a big question going into the season yeah, I definitely think that it'll take some time.

Speaker 2: 6:22

Um, you know, you can only get so adjusted and so familiar with someone through practice, um, that it's going to actually take games against other people that are actually going to be able to create that chemistry, create that, um, you know, game situational stuff, uh, with these players. So I think that I'd probably say at least five games that they're like actually going to get the feel of things, not saying that it's going to be a bad five games, but yeah, um, I do think that it's gonna take just a little bit of time yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 6:49

So what do you think of the non-con schedule they?

Speaker 1: 6:52

have a pretty good non-conference it is uh, we haven't seen this since you were playing dude, it's with dave rice back in the day.

Speaker 3: 7:00

I looked at him like, oh, it's gonna suck, and I started looking at it. I'm like at washington, at mem'm like, oh, it's going to suck, and I started looking at it. And I'm like at Washington. At Memphis we got St Joe's at home it's not great for Thomas and Mac, but away and then they have the tournament, which is a great tournament. I think the team gets like a million dollars that they can go to NIL, yeah, and they play Bama in Maryland, yep.

Speaker 2: 7:29

You know, if we can get one win, oh, that'd be nice, that'd be nice, right? So, um, yeah, no, I think to. I mean, I think last time we talked we had talked about the money aspect of it. The nil deals all that kind of stuff and you know, making that, as you know, big thing here. Um, I think that they they did receive a good amount of money at the beginning of the year that were able to, you know, push out to nil. Um, so that's what that's when you see, like the Alabama transfer, the Illinois transfer. So we'll see if that continues to grow over the years. You know, with it being his first year, I don't know how much they're granting him for next year or the years after, but I mean we'll definitely be able to see that yeah, and just to go over to the Alabama transfer you're talking about is Naz Cunningham, for folks at home.

Speaker 3: 8:04

And then the Illinois transfer that's Trevin Gibbs from Illinois. So yeah, some athletic kids. Naz Cunningham too, I think at one time was the number one recruit in the nation, five-star shooter. So yeah, let's get into roster. You know what are to you, what's the number? If you had to pick one player that you were excited to watch next year, who would that?

Speaker 2: 8:29

be Excited to watch. I would probably say Draven Really, and I mean Nas too. I think Nas has a lot to prove, especially coming from Alabama to a school like UNLV. I'm excited to see what that looks like. But overall, I think it comes down to the team. Right, I mean one player can do it, but I mean a team's going to take you and, you know, actually have that success.

Speaker 3: 8:56

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you Super and I like Gibbs a lot from Illinois super athletic, nas Cunningham. He seems like he has NBA potential. We'll see. For me it was Kamani Hamilton from High Point, 6'8", 225 pounds, small forward. I think he originally played at Ole Miss and then he was scoring about 13, 15 points. But that guy had offers from Kentucky, from Arkansas. He ended up coming here. I think he's going to be the focal point of the team. So I mean he's a grown man, he's big, he's a senior. I like how Pastner layered the depth Because really on paper right now it kind of looks like there'sner layered the depth Because on paper right now it kind of looks like there's 9 to 10 guys. You never know until it starts and injuries and everything.

Speaker 2: 9:44

Yeah they got some pretty decent injuries currently.

Speaker 3: 9:46

Yeah, Che right, Any updates.

Speaker 2: 9:50

I don't know specifically, but I know that they've been dealing with some injuries.

Speaker 3: 9:53

I'm a little concerned because you keep talking about Gibbs.

Speaker 2: 9:56

No he's fine, he's good, he's good, he's good. Okay, I was gonna kill it okay chase out for the season.

Speaker 3: 10:03

Uh, just joking, but yeah, I think they layered it like having some good seniors and juniors that are potentially gonna start and then we got some good like freshman, sophomore guys, like even uh, tyron jones top 100 recruit. Um, some younger guys are coming in that they can develop. Hopefully not with NIL, though. It's kind of like it's hard to hold your breath a little bit as well, because the transfer portal movement just because you have younger players doesn't mean they're going to be here. You have a junior doesn't mean they're going to be here the next year. So it's kind of who knows? But I like the way he layered it and what a great point you bring up is like hopefully, that seems like he has NIL support now. Does that continue? Because even though there's two more roster spots too, Any hints of what those two?

Speaker 2: 10:51

They just brought one kid from New Zealand, walter Brown. I haven't been able to see anything on him, but apparently he's a really good shooter.

Speaker 3: 10:58

I heard he's really good at defense too. He's actually I wrote him down as the player I'm most interested in because he played pro for New Zealand for like five years. He's an older senior. I'm like, how does he fit into this roster? But I don't think you bring that kid in if he's not going to.

Speaker 2: 11:15

Immediately come in and you know, make a difference, right, you have to yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3: 11:20

So yeah, that was one, one guy I'm super excited about. Um, so yeah, like on paper, I mean, what do you think the and we won't really know until this starts, because everything looks good when that, when the season starts, right, but before the season starts, but like on paper, what do you think are the potential strengths of this?

Speaker 2: 11:36

team. We're pretty athletic. It looks like we have a lot of high flyers, a lot of like you keep saying defensively, see if we can put that together, see what the schemes are defensively Coming into it. We look like we can. You know trade, I mean switch on pretty much ball screens, switch all one through five, maybe one through four and then some with five, um you know, and just kind of see what, what that looks like.

Speaker 3: 12:01

But I feel like that would probably be our strength currently okay, yeah, I was curious because the same thing with you, right, athletic defense, um, they're lengthy too. I like the potential starting roster would be like the tallest like team I can remember in a long time and, like you know, wait on them as well. So, um, so, yeah, I'm excited for that. But the one thing I noticed too about this team is and this is potentially a weakness maybe not because we had deed on last year, right, and we were playing a lot of hero ball. It felt like, yeah, there's not like a true point guard to this team, because, even like che, I'm excited for him, but he averaged like two assists but I'm not a game last, last year for irvine, but I'm like, was that because he had to do that, because he was probably one of their best players, or you know how's that gonna work?

Speaker 2: 12:50

but you kind of alluded that a little bit how offense is gonna look and yeah, yeah, maybe not having a true point guard, but you know, well, there's, there's ways that you, you know, you can hide that in in your offensive schemes, and I think that, um, I think that fastener can actually, you know, do well with the team that he has currently. Okay, um depends on what kind of you know, if he's doing a motion offense, if he's doing a set offense, if he's able to get it and just go. Um, hopefully we're going to bring back the running rebel style One through four can grab a rebound and take off and then we can get into transition instead of having to set up our offense Kind of like how Kruger had it. He would like to play a half-court game instead of the long-court game or full-court game, and I think that will be the biggest difference with this team, and I feel like that's the direction that he has to go in order to be successful.

Speaker 3: 13:39

Yeah, I love that take. And you know the one thing and I love D-Don being here, but when he kind of left, they looked way better Because they were playing. Like you said, as much as we get hyped on the players, it's the team chemistry and how, the ball movement, and that's something you talked about during the season last year how they weren't getting the ball movement so awesome, I love that take. Yeah, what else here? So do you have an underrated player here? Mine was Walter Brown, so you can't steal it. Do you have an underrated player on this roster?

Speaker 2: 14:13

I'll go with the hometown kid Mason.

Speaker 3: 14:16

All right, Mason I love it yeah. Yeah, can you talk a little bit more? I mean, I know you talked about, can you talk a little bit more about him? I know you said he's athletic, he can shoot, like how about his like intangibles, like a?

Speaker 2: 14:27

I mean he's a really good. I feel like he he played really well, um. He knows the game really well, his iq is pretty high, um, so I think that that goes a long way in this game, especially in the mountain west conference awesome.

Speaker 3: 14:52

I'm excited too. Uh, I felt like he was like an underrated signing. You know he's kind of like the local star but he wasn't big praise because he wasn't like a top 100 recruit. But I've only heard a lot of positive things about him and passenger, you know, kept his pledge here, so obviously passengers see something in him as well. Right, so, all right, cool, um so, non-con schedule what's? Do you have a specific game you're looking forward to the most? I think that Alabama game is going to be fun.

Speaker 2: 15:23

Are you going to? I won't. What? I don't know, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. The last two games I went to last year, the last two they lost. So I kind of want to see if I don't show up to that game. If they're going to win, it might be bad luck that I come up, but maybe good luck that I stay home. I'll definitely be watching it though.

Speaker 3: 15:44

Okay, I like it. You about to be all the time.

Speaker 1: 15:46

You don't want to give us bad luck, all right.

Speaker 3: 15:49

I feel like you're good luck. But yeah, that tournament is like I kind of feel the same way because, like it's cool, it's Thanksgiving week, right, was it MGM Grand or that little arena that you played in and I watched you?

Speaker 2: 16:03

Yeah, when you guys won Against Oregon.

Speaker 3: 16:06

I love it. Yeah, there's a good chance we go home too.

Speaker 1: 16:14

Like Met, bama and Maryland. Those are some programs. That's tough. That's tough that's tough.

Speaker 3: 16:18

So, uh, I I love to be like a homer and be super positive, but hopefully they, like you said, that chemistry gets going. Yeah, yeah, but it's. It's a good uh best non-con I can remember, uh, in a long time. But we're at washington, at memphis, st joe's st jo Joe's is really the only thing at Thomas Macklin 10 team, they have a good program history and then at Stanford, yeah, so those are the big games. Anyways. I didn't list the other games. So is there a conference team that you're most excited to watch? Unlv this year.

Speaker 2: 16:55

I feel like the obvious answer is San Diego State. Always Give me, give me. I think that GCU is going to be fun to watch and see how they get accustomed to the Mountain West game. It's completely different from their last conference. I think the teams in the Mountain West are better, obviously, but I'm interested in seeing they just got the kid from Gonzaga correct a kid from. They had a lot of chances.

Speaker 3: 17:24

This year prior, best player on you'd be a headly yep yeah, he was good. I liked Hadley last year. He was just like a very versatile player, could kind of do everything. He took over the offense with Dede. I mean, yeah, he was a good player for us.

Speaker 2: 17:37

I think it'll be fun to watch him.

Speaker 3: 17:38

He's proven in the Mountain West. I think it'll be fun to watch him.

Speaker 2: 17:41

I love that.

Speaker 3: 17:41

take so you took my take, definitely GCU. I'm excited. I love that the Mountain West added GCU. They put a lot into that program. Interesting too, g interesting too. At gcu picked mountain west over pack and there's like there's a little bit of such a rivalry now in the conference. Like it's too bad, it couldn't all stay together. It mixed up the pack is crazy what they did there. Any takes on that whole breakup? I mean?

Speaker 2: 18:09

not any hot takes, I would say I'm probably just gonna say exactly what everyone else is gonna say. I think it's gonna be a very interesting transition for, you know, boise State and those schools Utah State, san Diego State and the Mountain West, I would probably say, gets a little bit weaker with the teams that are coming in. So you know, unlv, we've been on a consistent middle to low in the conference. So I think when that change actually happens, I feel like if we don't jump up to that top spot or in the top four, I think that, uh, it'll be tough to recover.

Speaker 3: 18:42

So yeah, I agree with you. I think a lot's on the line for football and basketball right now. You know, the football looks really good, which is the most important in terms of money. Eight percent of money comes from football. 20 comes from basketball, but basketball is very important too, so just for the folks at home. So mountain west is basically one that, besides unlv, a lot of the top teams are moving to the pack. So the new mountain west for 2026 is going to like gcu is coming to the league this year, but after that it's going to be utep, hawaii, uc davis. Um, you know youtube's got some history for basketball way back in the day. You know they. But after that it's going to be UTEP, hawaii, uc Davis. Youtube's got some history for basketball way back in the day. They've got big arenas. You played in these arenas UC Davis. I think they kind of added them because they have a lot of money and they're academically really good.

Speaker 2: 19:29

They had some pretty good runs in their conference the last couple years.

Speaker 3: 19:32

Yeah. So they kind of have some upside. I think they can add football in the future and I think that in all of these are in big, big markets like el paso is a top 50 market people don't talk about that. Hawaii's top 50 market, uc davis is in northern california. So that a lot of that was what occurred. But I love gcu ad. I think for me this year, and in football too, I I'm like excited to watch all the pack teams that are leaving and just beating them. So yeah, san diego state, colorado state, boise, it's going to be kind of fun that there's. The rivalries have kind of are going to take another level oh yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3: 20:13

For sure, yeah, yeah, all right, cool, yeah. I think we've gone over most of this, so let's get away from basketball or anything you want to add to basketball, any other players you want to talk about, any hot takes for the season? What do you think it's going to come down to?

Speaker 2: 20:41

I will say one of my biggest hot takes right now is that they need to change they do need to change the transfer rules. Oh, okay, tell me more about that. So, obviously, transfer rules have changed. Uh, from when I was playing, you can only have the one-time transfer rule, but you had to sit out for a year. Yeah, then they change it to. You can basically transfer.

Speaker 2: 20:50

Not, you could play right away, um, and then now you could transfer whenever, however many times, and then now you can play. I think it takes away from the amateur side of of basketball, the college basketball especially, um, and you know, if there's, if there's a rule that you can only transfer once, I think that also, you know, grows the game a little bit more as far as college basketball goes. So you're not having to worry about people leaving every single year and they're they're playing each year as a contract year to get to the next spot, um, and just try to make more money, as as they're doing right now. So, um, I think that would probably be my biggest hot take currently and and what I see, I agree with you.

Speaker 3: 21:32

I think it needs to be. There needs to be a shift because there's too many. There's too many like transfer dates too right, like I know they're already starting to talk about maybe only having one for football now, because it doesn't make it like a ton of like you can transfer, like for football, it's like you can transfer right before the bowl season. And even I believe Marshall last year could not compete in their bowl game because they had too many kids transfer. They didn't have enough players. So that to me is like incredibly silly. Imagine you're a marshall fan, yeah, and you can't watch your team play a bowl game because of a. You know they didn't push the transfers at least a week out or whatever it is. So I agree with you. Uh, I would limit the transfer of maybe once, twice a year, whatever that looks like, but yeah, maybe like contracts, to something where it has to stay for two years, like like we got to figure it out. Is this amateur, is this professional? Now it's nil, it's a little bit both professional.

Speaker 2: 22:22

Now, right, it's professional. I agree with you.

Speaker 3: 22:24

It's just like a minor league for for nba, or yeah, nfl, yeah you should have ability to kind of like keep players for a little bit, but it's it's all kind of interesting because I don't think any of it's going to get sorted out. I don't think so, not in the near future anyways. But I know that there's going to be a huge shift in the league in 2030. That's what everybody has been talking about that there's probably going to be a football super league. We'll see if UNLV gets into that. I don't know if that's going to affect basketball or not, but they're probably. Ncaa is going away or it's going to play a very minor role. It's already playing a minor role, um, so I think we're going to know more when, but it's so far away.

Speaker 3: 23:03

But I think that's when they start shoring these things up and create their own roles and it's going to help the big ten in sec. It's not going to help. You know the end of the day, right, so but anyways, all right, cool, so good takes on basketball. Got to nerd out there for a little bit. So tell me what's going on in your life. I know you've been traveling. Yeah, give me the good stuff. What are some good places you've been going to and this this year.

Speaker 2: 23:28

I went to jamaica earlier uh, that's, this was back in march. Um, that was really fun, um, different culture, kind of getting to immerse a little bit more in the culture, not just staying on the resort. So that was really cool, oh cool. And us being in real estate, you know, you kind of pay attention to that a little bit more wherever you go, and the way that they do things out there is very, very, very interesting. They build until they can't build anymore. So you'll see houses with studs on the top that are trying just to continue to build. They'll build over summer or winter time, however that looks, and then they'll go work, make their money, come back and then build until they can't build anymore and they kind of do that as a repeating thing until they can actually build a house. So, you know, definitely understanding different cultures and seeing how that looks is that was really cool.

Speaker 2: 24:13

And I just went out and visited my family in hawaii, um, and on the big island and, as we were saying before, we went on air. It's a little bit different than, um, the honolulu, the touristy spots and stuff like that. But if you're looking for something that's, you know, a little bit more outdoorsy, a little bit cheaper um there's really really nice areas on the big island, so awesome yeah, I haven't been yet, so looking forward to going at some point.

Speaker 3: 24:35

So how is how's real estate, how's the real estate world? How's your year been going?

Speaker 2: 24:40

it's been slow this year um. I think that we've all kind of seen a turn. We felt like for sure.

Speaker 3: 24:45

Um, we're gonna have the lowest amount of sales this year than than I've been in the business 21 years. We have more less sales in the great recession this year than when that was going on.

Speaker 2: 24:56

Yeah, so obviously everyone kind of feeling that, but I think that towards interest rates are cutting just a little bit, which is catching people's attention. I think that a lot of my buyers are now starting to get prepared for the next couple months and actually make the move. A lot of out-of-state you know, tax tax purposes and everything in other States, other cities Um, I think that they're starting to now transition into actually making that jump as well. Uh, so I foresee 2026 being a better year than this year and you know, that's kind of how how it is currently so yeah, yeah, same here.

Speaker 3: 25:33

It's interesting because the spring just kind of went completely dead. I've never seen a slower spring in my career. First quarter was good. Yeah, the good news is for folks out there. If you're paying attention to real estate, market rates have gone down over a point since May. So as of this morning it was 6.2. They were over 7.5 back in May. So they've come down a lot. We were starting to see a little bit pick up and then again this week slow again. So it's kind of weird because you're like last time they were this low, the market was hot, so I think consumer confidence is still kind of wavering. We also need like the kind of the media To get behind it again.

Speaker 2: 26:16

Well, the media is always gonna be a little bit behind the trends, right, at least a week, maybe even two weeks. Yeah, just getting adjusted to where we actually are currently. So you know, if you're listening to media, uh, pay attention to it a little bit, but call your your real estate agent, that are. You know they're going to be a little bit more accurate on the actual trends of the market. Um, yeah, absolutely just a little throw out there but um, they're all headlines it's crazy. The headlines.

Speaker 3: 26:43

You see, I'm like, oh it's, it's contradicting headlines contradicting headlines from here to here.

Speaker 2: 26:48

The one one shows high inventory, the next one, right below it, shows low inventory. So you don't even know what you're looking at, um. But, like I said, call your local real estate agent, uh, me or john, obviously, if you're in vegas, um and uh definitely get to understanding where we actually are yeah, I'll, I'll be, I'm hoping, because I mean I know the Fed is next week potentially making that cut and I think it's.

Speaker 3: 27:12

I think it's due it's. I mean it's just been. It's literally been three years in real estate. We've been in a real estate recession People don't like to use that word until we're out of it but we've been in real estate sessions. Sales have been low. We need something. I think that will help and kind of get we need consumer confidence back. Probably if it gets back on the fives, hopefully, I would have thought it would have picked up already, but we'll see. Usually, fall is one of our better seasons. The weather cools off summer, as you know.

Speaker 2: 27:42

it's just like kind of too hot for people to come down, and I think our biggest time is during the wintertime, when people are in sub-zero degrees and now we're still in shirts and shorts out here in December and we're able to come out and kind of see what Vegas is actually really like.

Speaker 3: 28:01

I agree, yeah, when it just kind of, yeah, the weather cools off, usually about like September 15th, it starts getting kind of good. And weather cools off usually about like seven, september 15th, it starts getting kind of good and we see a pickup. So we'll see if that holds true, because spring I've never seen anything like that before. But yeah, so what are, what are your goals for us?

Speaker 2: 28:17

a year, they got going on and going in 2026 really just well, for the end of this year, just maintain, keep going, keep moving, keep uh networking, keep getting building relationships, um, and then into 2026. You know I'm trying to really get into my best year in this career. So, uh, I mean, if that looks, however that looks at that point in time, and go from there keep building, yeah I love it that it.

Speaker 3: 28:44

That's all you can do. So the most important question I can ask you how's your golf game going?

Speaker 2: 28:49

So sometimes I feel like I should quit real estate and go play golf.

Speaker 1: 28:54

For a living.

Speaker 2: 28:56

And then next time, the next round. I'm out and I should just throw my clubs away.

Speaker 3: 29:02

Sounds like my golf game.

Speaker 2: 29:03

I've gotten down to under a one handicap. So I've been playing really good golf. You know, getting out early mornings right after the gym and still allowing myself the full day to actually work Definitely helps. But yeah, I've played in some competitions, some tournaments. Now they haven't gone so well currently it's a completely different game than actually just going out and playing around.

Speaker 3: 29:26

But it did bring that. What's different about it? Like, I'm sure, like there's like a psychology mindset to it right for sure, like I'm never gonna be able to play in that, so what is the difference?

Speaker 2: 29:35

basically like all sports, right, like you can practice as much and you're not. You're not gonna feel that energy, you're not gonna feel that adrenaline until you're actually in a game. Um, people are watching you, um, you're actually competing against a whole bunch of people. So it's definitely a different mentality going into it than just going out and playing around with your friends. So it's fun, but definitely beat you up sometimes. Awesome.

Speaker 3: 29:58

Well, I need some golf lessons, so I'm going to get them from you, All right?

Speaker 1: 30:02

we're going to wrap this up Awesome start. Thanks for being on. You guys see this guy. Tom said buy him a beer. Guys, we're running Vegas, take care of yourselves today Later.

Speaker 2: 30:11

Later.

Speaker 1: 30:16

Later, later.