RUNNIN' VEGAS - The John McNamara Podcast

Gratitude, Growth, And Game Day

John McNamara

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Setting The Scene And Studio Move

SPEAKER_04

Hey guys, it's John MacIn the host of Ronna Vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. Guys, like we see some crap for all of us. Today we got interruptions with George Hernandez.

SPEAKER_01

What's going on, guys? I'm glad you have me here. I'm grateful we're doing our Thanksgiving gratitude edition.

SPEAKER_03

Gratitude edition. Yeah. In good timing with the new. We moved our studio next to Allegiant Stadium. Studio.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Our studio.

SPEAKER_03

Studio next to Allegiant Stadium. Right by the wheel skips.

SPEAKER_01

What? What? There's nothing Allegiant on there. We already know what we bought. It's MAP team now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what are you saying? I'm not promoting somebody that isn't paying us. Well, get out of here.

Six Years On The Mac Team

SPEAKER_03

We need to work on our endorsements for sure. Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be a fun pod. Have some fun questions.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and in addition to that, the pod has somewhat to do with real estate. That's how it came about, but we're not affiliated. Our our um thoughts, comments, what we bring to this is its own identity. Yes. However, for real estate news, it's my six-year anniversary working on the Mac team. Or with the MacNamera team, with the Mac team, with the I don't even remember what we called it back in the day. I think I I branded some stuff MacNamera Team because I didn't like your logo because it was so colorful.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And it was like I talked to you back into Mac Team. Yeah, and then we didn't like MacNamera, and I'm like, no, we're doing Mac Team.

SPEAKER_01

And then we did, and I liked Mac Team. Um, and we changed it to one solid collar and made it look less.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think it was like three different colors.

SPEAKER_01

It was like Christmas, because you like Christmas so much. I know the irony of that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. It looks way more You weren't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So anyway, six year anniversary, so it's cool to be here. We're celebrating. We're gonna do lunch after this and we have a fun pod. Let us know what you guys think. Um, yeah, I think this is something we should do every year. Yeah, kind of fun.

SPEAKER_03

Grateful that you've been on the team for six years and yeah, and we haven't killed each other. Put up my shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and you put up with more from me, I think. I guess it could be pretty equal in different ways.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm sure we both had our moments. Yeah, yeah.

Communication Styles And Growth

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm surprised you're still alive. Me too. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it was this close to there is no Mac team because Mac is gone.

SPEAKER_03

But it's been good. We've learned a lot, we've grown a lot. Yes. Um, I think you and I are we communicate very differently.

SPEAKER_01

So I think our I've learned, I've I think both of us have become more versatile with our communication and uh to give you guys context, um John and I, and it still happens here and there, because we're saying the exact same thing, and how we bring it up and how we articulate is completely different. Yeah, and um in the beginning we thought we were arguing with each other, right? Or that we were saying opposites just to find out that we were saying the exact same thing just different ways, yeah. So yeah, that's been a lot of growth.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I and I think it's pressive because I was thinking about it this week to be in business with each other for six years. You don't see that very often. So it's it's willing to do the work, have fierce conversations with each other. I I think the older I get, I appreciate that more in relationships.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, because I think, and I know like this with other team members I've left in the past, it's just people not speaking their mind, having a conversation with you. And it's it's a lack of, as you know, because we we like to read, but uh there's a lack of fierce conversations that usually break down a relationship. And you and I, that's one the biggest thing I appreciate about you is you're willing to do the work, grow with me, have those tough conversations, and that's why we've been able to make this business work. And yeah, we bring different strengths and weaknesses, whatever you want to call it to the business, but we we bring it together, it it works well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I like it. Yeah, and you said a key word growth. It's like you have to be that in order to keep on moving to the next level and accomplish whatever we want to accomplish. Call me grower.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and I think we yeah, we bring different um we bring different things to the team, and it's uh it it's kind of helped. Uh we both saw the vision, it kind of just worked well together. So it's like because your strengths are just different than mine. I I knew that was a good piece, and vice versa. So appreciate it of you. Yeah, me too, of you. So that was my take it lightly. That was my answer of uh question number one. What's your most thank thankful is being a little bit more than a little bit? No, look at you getting six years.

SPEAKER_01

Um what are my most thankful for? Everything we just said, too. Yeah, I uh yeah, that was the long-winded answer. So I like it. Yeah, what's something that's not obvious that you're grateful for?

Surviving A Down Market

SPEAKER_03

Did you um this year? You know, real estate was tough. So and I think for all of us. Yeah, for all of us, right? So I think it's and it I guess this goes to the agents out there. Um, I and Ricky Caruth has been such so good on social media, like pumping up real estate agents. A lot of people do not see Ricky.

SPEAKER_01

If you're seeing this, I'll send it to you. We need you on the pot. If you're ever back here in Vegas, last time we no, he his is not the woo. His is the ooh. Oh, is that everyone?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you put it in the Ric Flair.

SPEAKER_01

He gets it. Yeah, he gets it. Yeah. So, Ricky, if you're seeing this, I I'll you know what, actually, I'm gonna send this directly to you, Rick and Ricky Carruth. And um, yeah, if you're in Vegas, let's go ahead and do it. I know you like getting in and out, and you're not a partier, but you have so much value, and yeah, you're a crazy kid. And it's like, and I like that. So, you guys, just to give you context too, I go into these stories. We're at a BAM event, the broke agent media event here in Vegas, and Ricky Caruth just took over the stage and he had like 30 minutes and he wanted to keep on going, but he's a fun kid, he's a bro, and we were supposed to go to the pool, it was whole horrible weather, and we catch each other, and yeah, good kid.

SPEAKER_03

He's a very good kid, but he he props agents up, and you know, one thing I would say is this has been a really tough year in real estate, so I think it's the gr like we've been working a lot, yeah. And I I don't think a lot of people understand what it takes to like build a business, and with 74% of agents not doing a deal this year, we had another phenomenal year. I'm very grateful for it, right? And we worked a lot, yeah. Weekends through the week, and it's all good. Like you just the bad times, I wouldn't even call them bad times, the the shifts in market, you have to take advantage of them too. It's just different. So I'm grateful for the work ethic we have that we continue to work, um, that we somehow still had basically the same year as last year, and sales are down 12%. And that's amazing. Uh 74% of agents didn't even do a deal this last year.

Big Wins And Ideal Clients

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And that is which we're grateful for everyone we've been in business with every single year. And um, and this year we've met some amazing clients. Um, yeah, you you had a big deal closed just recently. Oh, you're next question. Oh, I'm not I'm just going with the flow. I'm not going in sequence, guys. My ADD, that's why it's interruptions by George. So I actually this is how different we are. I don't know if you guys can see this. So uh John's lightly scripted just so he doesn't get caught off of left field. I have no answers to my questions because I'm sure I'll have 10 things to say about it. Yeah, we've got your answers. Yeah, you you you had one of your yeah, one of the biggest sales you've had in your career, and I'm so proud of you. And it's just yeah. And beyond the volume amount, guys, it is the clients that you are working with are so business driven, so respectful, so everything, it is the complete, if the I dare to say, perfect avatar for a client. Yeah, and we're heading in that direction with systems and being uh having more touches, doing more happy hours, doing more events, doing more referral business, putting it out into the energy or into the universe and manifesting.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, I'm proud of uh proud of that moment because I it's the um well, you're a big part of that because as I built my uh business through prospecting, cold calling, um the system that I the systems that I yeah, so the system maybe if you don't know the systems that Ibrahim brought up is you cold call, you're gonna appointments, that's that's what you do, but you've been really big about COI events and meeting with clients, and it's been a big shift in our business, and we've seen results from it. Yeah. So that is, and it's been fun. It is. It's actually way more fun than just making cold calls. Still making your cold calls. They do work.

SPEAKER_01

We still do, yeah, and he'll double it again. Yeah, for those of you guys that don't aren't agents and are watching the show, cold calling is literally just that to where my approach is happy hours, coffees, lunch.

SPEAKER_03

You connect into the possibly dinner, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Connect into the good mix. You get to it's fun to see. We've met amazing people this year.

From Cold Calls To Community

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but and when you're going through the transaction, you see like a surface level to the to the agent, to the client, right? Because most of the time both parties are professional, we are always very professional. But then when you take them out to a neighbor's game, or whatever it is, like you get to see another side of that, right? And vice versa. Right. And then you actually have true connections. So that's been a big part of it. That that would that was you for sure. Yeah, so yeah, I appreciate that, and just connecting to our clients in a different way, and it's it's been fun. I in I enjoy going showing you enjoy showing homes better when you like the person, right? For sure.

SPEAKER_01

They're like I'm just gonna have so much under more understanding of you too, as a human being, yeah, right. And it's like what's going on, and then we we you know what a problem I think is, what I'm grateful for and where we're at and where we have been, but it we've getting we're getting better at it. Is if you're a salesperson out there, I think oftentimes we try to skip steps, right? Everything goes in ladder, in a like a ladder, it's like how we um yeah, how we earn respect or authority or knowledge or whatever it is. We unfortunately, as salespeople, want to go from a salesperson to advisor, and you're trying to advise somebody without earning their trust, and that middle part is the biggest thing, and being relatable, yeah, and making sure you have the same values and making sure you have the same goal, the client and you, right? Because if not, that's kind of where things go south.

SPEAKER_03

For sure, and people and I we see it in real estate a lot, and this is probably what gives real estate a bad name, is a lot of agents aren't savvy with their real estate skills. It's a really important thing. We say it all the time. First two years, just work on your sales skills, and then you know how to connect, build the trust, build, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So it it's it's something that's missing the industry, and it's it feels like it's getting worse. There's like a like it's it's gotten a and I know training's just gone down because there's as much as people think real estate agents are making all this brokerage, that they're they're really not. No, they don't see the net and the cost of running a team, a cost of running a brokerage, it's very expensive. Um, so yeah, it was a good good point. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, it's like, and we'll get to the fun stuff. I guess that's good enough with real estate. You guys know me. I'm like, we do real estate every day, and I'm passionate about we're passionate about it. I like helping people when we're doing the consultation, but other than that, I want to get to know the real people and what you're doing and what's fun and what's not, you know. And it's like, so let's get into Thanksgiving since it is in two days.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's just what is a Thanksgiving tradition growing up that you had that maybe nobody would have guessed.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. Um, well, I misread the question.

unknown

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'll put you on the spot.

Trust Before Advice

SPEAKER_01

I love it. I got the one question that he didn't prepare for.

SPEAKER_03

See, I love the beauty of that, so now you really have to think about it. Growing up, oh man, I don't we didn't really growing up, my family didn't have a ton of traditions. We just hung out. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

All right, well.

SPEAKER_01

Now my and my mom was always. Do you like that or do you dislike it?

SPEAKER_03

Um I I don't I don't think I feel good or bad about it. I think it's I think the only big tradition, like in the holidays, is my mom had a big Christmas tree, a lot of presents. That was like her thing.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Which I appreciate because I have the best mom.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but uh Thanksgiving wasn't really, you know, we'd eat. Like a traditional watch football. I guess, yeah, watching football with my family was the my favorite thing to do growing up together.

SPEAKER_01

So I know the answer to this, but would you rather watch football or watch a Christmas movie? All right, I should have known that sports. Yay.

SPEAKER_03

So, what is your uh favorite Thanksgiving tradition growing up?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I love shout out to my mom for never making us Thanksgiving hop, or like you know how like I hear like families like uh go to like different homes uh during Thanksgiving, or like like they do that for Christmas too. Yeah, like if you have like your this is what I appreciate the most. Thanksgiving gave me this certain level of safety, joy, love, happiness, knowing that it was gonna be held at my house, just my immediate family, which means my parents and my sister and myself, and that was it. Now it's turned into something beautiful because it's my sister and my nieces and my brother-in-law. They've been married forever. I didn't know the other day. I'm like, what? You guys have been married more than like 10 years? That's amazing. And it yeah, and it's crazy. Yeah, congrats to my sister and my brother-in-law, Gabe. And yeah, and I'm like, oh man, I thought you guys were married as long as Naomi was alive, but I guess they were dating for like four years before that. They were married for two years before that. I'm like, Jesus. But um, so it's staying at uh all that story to tell you this staying at home. I value being at home and not having to get ready and spend my time with different family members. My mom knew that it was gonna be at our house, it was gonna be on our terms, it was gonna be the stuffing we liked, the food that we liked, and we all like helping the day before. So I'm flying out tomorrow at 5 a.m., guys, just to, you know, when we have mimosas and we make it fun, and it's just a really good time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So your favorite tradition is the mimosas.

SPEAKER_01

So it's the mimosas and yeah, not leaving the house.

SPEAKER_03

I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can appreciate that. My parents got divorced when I was young and I was everywhere.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, so that wouldn't apply with me. I'm like, we gotta pick one. But like you get Christmas, you get Thanksgiving, we're not doing both. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I would move around. So I I like that. Yeah, that's like that's a good one. Uh what's the one go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Turkey or ham. Turkey or ham. Oh, turkey. Oh, me too, 100%. All these hammer people are like, yeah, not so much. Gross. Yeah. I do want to try. My mom loves ham, though. Oh, really? It's like, all right, Kathy.

Thanksgiving Traditions And Preferences

SPEAKER_03

Kathy watches all the pops, so we gotta Yeah, so Kathy.

SPEAKER_01

I would definitely eat the ham you make. Yeah, if if I was spending Thanksgiving here. Yeah, oh no, I'm sure. Yeah. She eats very healthy and clean. She does. If we all modeled that, yes. If we all modeled her.

SPEAKER_03

My mom is very disciplined.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, so it's yeah.

SPEAKER_03

She is.

SPEAKER_01

What was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_03

No one uh was question number two.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I'm jumping all over the place with whatever comes. Okay, so I already asked you ham or turkey. What about pecan pie or pumpkin pie? Okay, okay. You got pecan? Uh, I like pumpkin better, but I do like a pecan pie here and there.

SPEAKER_03

And I just got pecan pie.

SPEAKER_01

My buddy just got a pie that was half and half, so it was beautiful. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

My uh favorite, uh, my stepmom, we're going to be family a lot in this. Uh my stepmom Elizabeth, she makes pies and uh she makes cherry and chocolate, and then I always have two pieces and I mash them together. It's like my favorite thing and things.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, okay. That's different. That's uh, yeah, yeah. Cherry's bomb if you know how to make it. I'm very like.

SPEAKER_03

So I think one of the questions here too was like, what's uh like the thing you don't like about Thanksgiving? Oh, okay. Or something along those lines. I'm not, you know, since we're gonna go all the time. Okay, the grinch.

SPEAKER_01

Um tell me, what don't you like about Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I still eat healthy when I'm I may have that pie there, right? But I still I'm not a fan of good point. I'm not a fan of just like eating all day and then getting tired and going. I'm just not that guy. I still eat like I'll eat my turkey, uh, green beans, maybe a little mashed potatoes, but I I still try to keep it healthy because I still want to have like energy and feel good. And I just don't I've never understood uh just like eating crap all day and then feeling like crap, so that's my um humbug grinch, I guess, moment.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Okay. Yeah. What's yours? Uh what's my what unhealthiest? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

What's your your the thing you don't like about the uh holidays or like I love everything about the holidays.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

There's gotta be something. I I know you very well.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, that's before that was before I was on happy pills. Now I'm on happy pills and I find joy in everything, guys. I'm like, shout out to my therapist. It's like all of them. I'm grateful for them too. This year has been so much better because of them. Um, what's something I don't like? Um let's see.

SPEAKER_03

Or what I don't know how it's worded. You put it in here. Chat Jorge um wrote these questions.

SPEAKER_01

I do like, I I I like everything about Thanksgiving. I love spending time with my nieces. I really do. And I think this is the first year, and I think maybe this is why I'm going into it with this attitude. This year is the first year since my Sophia, the middle niece. Her birthday is on December 1st, and we tend to work on the first. And last year, I know I mentioned it, remember two years ago. I'm like, hey, I think I want to start being present for my niece's birthdays because time flies, guys. Yeah, for sure. Time flies. And this is the first year we're actually gonna celebrate on Sunday, her birthday, and then I come back the next day on her actual birthday, she has to go to school anyway. But um, yeah, I think I'm looking forward to it now. October, November, December is when my nieces were born, all three of them. So now I have more to look forward to and a bigger why.

Hosting, Family, And Rest

SPEAKER_03

I like it, and I'm really glad you're joined that because I know how much they mean to you and they give you less. And every time you go back home, it's like you're just um cloud nine. Yeah. You know, you're always in a great mood, and so I'm glad you're gonna get joy your family and spend time with you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think it's I think it's that there was a question in there that I was that made me think um Friendsgiving or Thanksgiving. Oh. And I do think I want to start a Friendsgiving. Oh, cool. I am not a host, I I don't like hosting people, so it's I think I have like, you know, it's it's it's um nothing crazy, but I I think I have the perfect house. You know, we have the backyard and we have the roof.

SPEAKER_00

We're finally gonna host at the house.

SPEAKER_01

And then you guys, for six years, seven years, I've been saying I'm gonna throw something at my house and I have done nothing. And part of it is because I don't know uh it's so much work and like inviting people, and it's just I'd rather go out to a brunch. However, I do think I want to start like a Friendsgiving transition because there are so many kids that don't have the opportunity like you and I do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I know when my nieces um get a little older, what I brought up to my sister was I we I something where we volunteer as a family would be awesome. Especially for them, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's great. I love the Friendsgiving idea. I think I just hop around on my friends, but we don't actually have like a time that I think that would be good in the future to put together and let's do it.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe it's a team, it's clients, it's something fun, and we get everybody in the world. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because it does mean a lot because there have always been times when my parents have not been around in Las Vegas. And shout out to Luke, because him and I would always hang out and we would uh have a holiday, you know, party at Christmas Eve or Thanksgiving, whatever it was. But it's in those moments where you can get really lonely and you just have that one friend that makes all the difference in the world. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, yeah. That's yeah, 100%. So I feel like I'm asking a lot of questions, but I I could keep going or what's the one that you just have the year that humbled you, and what's the one thing that leveled you up? Okay, so as I pat my nose because my allergies. Um, all of guys, I'm not gonna get into it. However, I'm grateful for all of 2025 because 2025 humbled me and has been the most challenging, the most opportunity, the most growth opportunity that I ever had in my entire life. It was crazy circumstances, it was health issues. I'm grateful for health insurance. Yay, sciatica. Yeah, sciatica. It was weird health stuff. I was in the yard. I was just uh a lot of people don't know this. I don't even think my family knows the struggle you and I went through this year. Um, and and thank you. Uh yeah, you've helped me get through this year mentally, physically, and spiritually. And it's like to say the least, guys. Um got through it though. We got through it, and now life is actually looking better. It's looking like opportunity, it's looking like we want to inspire. Where I wasn't there six, maybe even five, four months ago. It was just still a struggle. So all of it, all of it has been beautiful growth opportunities, it's been humbling for sure. Um, you guys I'm a very routine-based, scheduled-based person, and these last this year has been the least amount of scheduled I've been.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Personal Challenges And Resilience

SPEAKER_01

And um I realize that scheduling is still important because I I don't like people that cancel or can't keep a schedule. Like that's not uh something that I see value in. However, I do also recognize that there is value in being versatile, flexible, and um being able to go with the flow a little and be in the present more than anything else. And it's like, yeah, good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm proud of you you've leveled up this year, and I feel I feel like there's a different George that's come out of it. I feel like there's a different George, yeah. Yeah, you just seem way happier. Like there's there's like a lighter side of you, and I think that was like it's never fun. We all go through at some point in our life where we take a step back, whatever the thing that occurs, right? Yeah, but and like you grew from it, you got better, you worked through it. So I I like that. So you should be proud of yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Yeah, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_03

Mine wasn't as mine's kind of like more funny. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

All right. So lighter.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Um my phone got spammed this year because I was sending out too many videos. Um, so that was kind of I was a little down. It took like two months to figure that out. I figured it out. I have like a work burner phone now to like make my calls and everything.

SPEAKER_01

He feels so cool because he has a burner phone now. He loves saying I have a burner phone. I'm like, to make cold calls.

SPEAKER_03

Do you have my burner phone number?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's like I don't think I do. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I got a new one because that one got spammed. Oh, okay. So I don't know what I'm gonna say because it doesn't really, I only use it for work. But um, yeah, that was kind of that was humbling because for 21 years I've been making phone calls. So what happened was my phone got spammed personal, and it's bad if it gets spammed. You can basically fix it one time, but if it ever gets does it again, uh you're basically your phone is spammed forever, texts aren't coming through. It's very bad if you're a real estate agent. So that was my humbling moment of the year.

SPEAKER_01

Um I want to know if you rather back to the Thanksgiving stuff. Yeah. What's the mix of? If you rather host or show up empty-handed.

SPEAKER_00

Showed up empty-handed.

SPEAKER_01

Me too. Jesus.

SPEAKER_03

Instantly I knew what I'm like, you're gonna give me grief on this one, but I feel like I like I I feel like so. My job. If I'm hosting, no one's invited. It's me who's right. Right. It's it's a lot to host.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Light Moments And Overrated Dishes

SPEAKER_03

Um, but I'll say this. Like when I go to somebody's house, I always clean their dishes. Like, I make sure like I have my role because they for, you know, they I think it's a lot to be a host, but unless they're at my mom's house. Yeah, I'm not allowed to do anything at their neighbor's house. I'm in that very yeah, it is. Eat more food and don't.

SPEAKER_01

Eat more food, don't say no to the second plate. Don't do any chores. And they say leave the plate. Yeah. They say leave the plate on the table, leave the plate on the table.

SPEAKER_00

I don't mess with your mom.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever your mom says, it goes.

SPEAKER_00

We're all a little scared of Myra guys.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, it's I'll do the dishes, but I I'll be honest with you, I feel like, and um, just with work and life, I go, go, go, and then I kind of get to those moments of either Christmas or Thanksgiving, and it's kind of like a you know, like moment where I can kind of just take a because that's like the one the you only in real estate for me, anyways, I only get a couple days where eight or agents or clients or people aren't calling, texting me, trying to You don't have to be on. Don't have to be on. So I think it's my one moment to sit on the couch, have a beer, watch the football game, talk to my family a little bit. But I'm usually like on like very low energy, so you know, and that's not a good excuse. It's just that's how the you know, maybe later on I'll I'll host, but it's it's a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, when you have kids. Yeah, yeah. The universe permitting, when you have kids, it will be at home. Yeah, because then it's hard to try to get ready. I didn't understand. I think that's why Naomi, that's my first niece.

SPEAKER_03

The kid's house or the the parents' house, I should say.

SPEAKER_01

And that's the best way. I I didn't understand until Naomi, that's my first niece. She just turned 11. Um, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it is crazy. Time flies.

SPEAKER_01

Um, it wasn't until her that I understood you could get ready, they took their nap, you're in the car, you're buckled in, and then all of a sudden they need to use the bathroom and the diaper change, and that makes you 20, 30 minutes late. So when you have kids, that'll change everything, and then you'll have to host.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I know. Well, I'm behind the uh what would you say, curve or everything? Because all my friends and and family they have kids. So I already know, like you go to them for the most part, you know. Yeah. Once in a while they come to you, you know, and you're tired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just it that it's a lot. It is. It is. So okay, this is the question.

SPEAKER_01

Are you a good cook though? Have you ever made a birthday?

SPEAKER_03

Have you seen my chicken?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so uh you guys you guys want to hear something? Let me tell you something really quick. Okay, yeah. And then then that that's that's that's Ric Flair again. Yeah, I know. I know. This is the ooh. That's the joke.

SPEAKER_03

Or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

I forget, I have to hear it now. I'm making a chance. You guys, we were on Instagram the other day. Yeah, and I like to pound my chicken, or what is it called? Um, tenderize, like when you tenderize. Flatten it out. So like you get a chicken breast, and then they have this, uh it looks like a hammer. I'm not sure what the terminology is, but you flatten the chicken out so when you grill it, you don't it's not thick and then dry, right? Yeah. So John doesn't do that, and his chicken comes in like it was boiled in water. It's not, it's right. Like for a chicken that's gonna be like a chicken salad. So I call him out on Instagram, right? And I'm gonna show everybody on my all my viewers, you know, how he makes his chicken, and his chicken comes in looking really good. So I knew something was up. It was his wife. She has a white seasoned chicken. That's why it didn't look all white and bland.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, I knew I should have known better. Yeah, I was like, hon, can you please season this so I don't get made fun on Monday? Yeah. Yeah, so I don't get bullied. I knew it was coming.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And then he was eating it like literally like two hours later. I was.

SPEAKER_01

Because it was seasoned, because it wasn't made by you. It wasn't seasoned by you. It was made by you not at the Christina. Oh my god. Thank you for knowing what spices are. I'm like, you're heavy here. Alright, I have, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, we only what?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well, before I have a good question. Okay. I don't know. I I like this one. What is the most overrated food in Thanksgiving? Overrated food? Yes. Ooh. I got I got in a fight with my dad about that song.

SPEAKER_01

I would say ham.

SPEAKER_03

I don't need ham.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I would say ham. I don't need ham. I like green beans and I like the yams with marshmallows. Don't give me healthy shit. Like, I don't want to eat healthy and oh, I'm gonna feel tired. I don't care about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want like the full flavor. I want to be like in a concept of me.

SPEAKER_03

So um overrated. I don't like naps, so yeah. Um my overrated was stuffing. Oh, what? Stop! Gross. Okay, so what's the thing? So my dad tried to give me stuffing, and every year I would tell him, like, I don't like stuffing, and one day I like I I was like a brat. Like, this was like maybe 10 years ago. So it's not too long ago. I was like, you don't even know that I don't like stuffing. And we got like a whole like verbal bat about it. So silly to think about now. They're gonna get a whole thing that my dad. My dad has to memorize what I don't like or threw that back at him. Sorry, Dad, I love you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Dad, that's your only job. You have one kid.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, but he knows I don't like stuffing now. That's like the joke, and everything's good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know what, John McNamara Jr. If you have one kid. You only have one job.

SPEAKER_00

Remember what they don't like.

SPEAKER_03

I don't like Steph.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, guys, we're gonna wrap this up. Wanna wish you guys happy Thanksgiving, happy holidays. It's Ron Vegas to give yourself the dumb.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, chill out.