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From Comfort Zone to Luxury: Shaun Marion’s Bold Career Move | Runnin’ Vegas

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Welcome Back And Big Move Teased

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Hey guys, John Matthew. This is Rhoda Vegas. We're talking about the sports business real estate. You guys like to see subscribe and follow us on Rhoda Vegas. Round two. Round two.

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Mr.

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Sean in the house.

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Happy to be here. Excited to be here. Mr.

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Sean burying in the house.

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What's going on? So Sean. Yes, sir.

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Oh, why does it start so here's what irritates me about.

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Hold on. Oh, here we go. So this is what it is. I see every day. Well, on this podcast. You guys haven't seen me in nine months. Gotcha.

Why Leave After 14 Years

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We haven't seen you in nine months. Have there been any changes? Anything new in your life? Of course, man.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, no, I think right when we last met, I was making the move over to the brokerage, over to Virtue. It's been a phenomenal move. I mean, after 14 years at the at KW at the previous brokerage, to make the move over to Virtue was uh it was a big move, but it's been amazing. Everybody's, I mean, you guys are there, obviously, it makes it easy. Everybody's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_05

And if we don't sell it, I don't know who does.

SPEAKER_04

No, for real. Well, you guys did a great job, but I didn't, you know, you guys were just a small part of it. But no, I mean, having you guys in the office every day. It's been a great move. Business is is definitely starting to pick up, moving in some different directions. So yeah, I've been really happy about that. So yeah, life's good, man.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I know. I've seen you doing open houses for multi-million dollar homes now. Who'd have thought? Who would have thought? No, I love it. I I just saw your flyer the other day, and I'm like, this looks fancy, this looks good. I'm like, if anybody's gonna get into luxury, it's you. You've been in this industry for so long. Long time. And you know, you are when you were in production before you were in your last role, yeah, everything was kind of through your database. Yeah. So now you're just you know elevating that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you gotta talk to different people. You want to work in some different spaces, you have to talk to different people, and that's the way to do it. You gotta do, you gotta get out of your comfort zone. And yeah, open houses was not, you know, in my wheelhouse, right? But it's a thing to do, you know, you gotta get out and do some different things, and I've I've been enjoying it so far. So it's been great.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you've been crushing it. Yeah, you've been crushing it. It's so I want to know when is for somebody like you. I'm not even gonna speak in generalities. Sure. When does somebody come to the point where they're like, okay, it is time for me to make a move?

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Wow.

SPEAKER_05

Because so many people get comfortable in where they're at, and they've been doing that for so long, yeah, that that's what they're used to. So when was the question?

Entering Luxury And Mindset Shift

SPEAKER_04

That was a good question. I think really what it was, because like you said, my previous role too, I was still had my license still in sales, but was in management and in you know, brokerage management and recruiting. And you know, I came out of that and was excited to get back into sales because I miss it. I love the day-to-day life in the sales side of it. And so I came out of it and it has no knock. I love my my previous brokerage. Everybody there is like family to me. I was there for 14 years. Yeah, um, it was just that I think that was part of it though, too. Being there that long, it was complacency. It was complacency. It was what am I going to learn? And yes, I could learn a lot of different things from a lot of different people around the world and around the country with KW, but how was I going to get some different knowledge inside of my own four walls? And I felt like I needed to make the move to get that done. So that's it. It was an internal feeling. It wasn't like, oh, this place sucks, I gotta go. Right. It was it was an intern, it took me a lot of time. I I did a lot of soul searching, and and I didn't go search a lot of brokerages. I literally talked to three uh and they were all referred to me basically, and and it was still a tough decision, but was happy with it when I made it. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Good, good, good. Well, congrats for the move. We're excited to have you there. So, what have been the big learning lessons with the process of moving? Um well the big learning. I mean a luxury now, we're more of a focus, I should say.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I guess a little bit of a focus. And that's the thing, is it's really still the you know, sticking to the basics, you know, my database is still lifeblood of my business. So price point, you know, it's really that you know, that mindset of hey, luxury isn't just a price point, you know, it's it's a it's a process, it's a it's a mindset. Uh it's treating every level of client with that level of uh of care and uh yeah, and making sure that everybody so it's like whether you're talking to someone at four or five hundred thousand or four or five million, they're getting the same knowledge and experience and care. Um, and so and that's you know, really, you know, being in the in the space of Darren, uh, you know, our owner broker, is you know, he's just is just willing to give that knowledge every day and share. And he he talks about how to bring it with no matter who the clientele is, but obviously he speaks in a more luxury space. Right. So it's just been it's just been knowledge where you think you know it by being in the business for this long, but then you don't walk through a home with him, I'm like, oh shit. You know, you're it's just a different way of looking at things, even though there's things that I might have know internally, he just brings them out in a different way, and I'm like, oh, I didn't even notice that. So just those different things, the way he talks to his clients, again, it's all relationship as we always know it is.

SPEAKER_01

So it's been great. He thinks big too. That's I think that's the biggest thing for me. It's just that that mindset shift.

SPEAKER_04

I completely agree. It's funny because when I made a move, I mean I moved from the largest KW in town. I mean, we were up to like five, six hundred agents, and I wanted to move to a smaller brokerage because I wanted a tighter knit feel. But when I met with Darren and he's like, look, my goal is to be at 250 agents here in Vegas and be in multiple states, I'm like, I can get on board with that. I don't mind being part of a growth moving towards that because he's not stagnant, he's not looking to just be here, right? He wants to move forward and grow, and he's going to do that through his agents. And he's he is crazy. I love that energy. That's what gets him up every day and gets him excited, and he likes to fire everybody up about it. So being part of that energy is phenomenal. So yeah, I've I I love him for it.

Thinking Bigger With A Growth Brokerage

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What's something I I hate to make this pot about me, but I will I yeah, I will give you guys an example of I wish I would have gone with my gut instinct, guys. It was when I got into this business, I wanted to do luxury right off the bat. And unfortunately, I was told by several people, and it's you and I never had that conversation about luxury, so I'm not throwing you under the bus. Um, so just you know, to keep it fair. However, uh got if you're looking to get into real estate and get into the luxury space, or if that's what, and I was like, learn how to sell, learn how to do this, learn how to do that, and it kind of bit me in the ass a little bit because I feel like I could have been way more ahead in life than I could have in this in this career.

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Gotcha in the career.

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And Darren said something to me, and he's like, fuck that. Yeah, he's like, fuck how many homes you sold. He's like, because when you get to that one million, two million, three million, and they ask you how many two million, three million dollar deals have you sold, yeah, you say zero. Does that hundred matter? Yeah. He's like, no. So he gives you that confidence right off the bat. Agreed. So at what point did you know that it was you had just outgrown the space you were in? Well or or was it something, was this something that you kind of always wanted to do? I guess my question is, let me let me let me let me try to shorten it up because I'm working on being concise. Keep working. Exactly. So that's why I'm in improvement. I'm a work in progress, guys. So it it's at what point did you realize you're like, hey, this is not the route I want to take any longer? Or did you realize what you're doing now is what you could have been doing sooner, and you just it paused a little too long?

SPEAKER_04

It it could have been. I think what it came to as well is again, like you said, when I was in that little bit of a crossroads of making a change of brokerage, it was like, okay, I'm also 52 years old, so it's not I don't I love doing what I do, and I also see myself as like, hey, I got maybe you know 10 real strong years of having this level of energy and wanting to continue to do it maybe at a high level. And I'm like, I so I I want to sell as many homes as possible, but if I also can move into you know a higher sales price, then why not sell some fewer homes and make more money? Look, we're in this to make money. We can't don't ignore that. You know, we're we're here to help people and our customers and clients every day, but we do this to make a living. End of story. And so what can we do to encourage everybody else wants to get raises in their jobs? It's a way to get a raise. Yes, we can go out and sell more, or what we can sell at a higher or we can sell at a higher price. Don't be ashamed of wanting to make more money. There's nothing wrong with that. So it's just about knowing that it's an and it's so much more of an opportunity in our city than it ever has been. Right. I mean, you know, when I got my license 30 years ago, uh, you know, a million-dollar home was a huge deal. I mean, massive. It was just unheard of almost, and now it's just the common.

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Um now you see these million dollar homes, and they need a lot of work. Well, yeah, it's a luxury limit.

Trusting Your Gut About Luxury

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But at the same time so it's not even a luxury mine, you know, it's just about getting into those and understanding those price points, understanding the people that are in those homes and how to speak to them. Right. So that's all it really is, is like, hey, I want to, I want to increase my quality of life and and and work with some different clientele than I have been. And that's all it is. So and then and so yeah, it's finding it, it's if I really like if you're getting started, and this is what you want to do, join a team. End of story. What I felt like I did was join a team. Even though I just moved to a brokerage, right? I felt like I was joining a team because Darren was like, hey, anything I know, you're gonna know. Right. Anything you want to know that I know, I will tell you. So in my mind, that's joining a team. And it's not a whether you call it a competing broker, I don't care about that. He's willing to share. He'll go on a damn listing. I've got appointments coming up in the near future that he's going to go on with me. Right. And it's not about competing, he's not trying to take the business. I feel like this is one ad for Darren. I know, I gotta stop that. But it's a lot we don't have to stop that.

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No, we promote Darren all the time.

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But it is, but that was the but if not. Darren, happy hours on even two weeks. But even if I come back from Mexico, it's joining a team if that's where you want to go, even right out of the gate. There's teams out there that will show you the ropes in this space or other price points as well. So that's what it comes down to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Darren's been great. I think one thing about Darren, which I really appreciate is the one guy out there in luxury who's willing to share and have this conversation and meet with you. Oh, yeah. I don't know if there's a lot of other folks in the luxury park.

SPEAKER_04

There's not a lot in the business in general. Yes. You know, so no matter what the price point is, but that takes it to another level for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. So, what are your goals look like for this year and going to the next year?

SPEAKER_04

Um, you know, it's it really they haven't even changed a lot from last year to this year. I just was still in a kind of a rebuild mode. Um, you know, it's still push, yeah, it's still getting to that point of about 30 transactions are my goals that I have set sat down, and price point will happen and occur where they occur. I'm not as focused on that as I am about the number of people that I can help this year. So if I can get to that point and we're, you know, it started a little quiet, but it's really heading in the right direction. So those numbers will, and I know within that, by doing the activities I'm doing, there will be some price points in there that are already, again, in action that will occur. So uh doing you know, 30 that have some two and three and four million dollar deals in there is gonna be just a bonus, you know, and moving the business and doing exactly what I planned on doing by coming over here.

SPEAKER_01

I like it. I like it. That's kind of what we're doing too.

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Yeah, and it's exciting. Like I said, I'm I'm excited to be, you know, come to work every day. I'm excited to get up and do it. I just I do love this stupid business, man. It really is, is it's just is it's it's really invigorating.

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You have your 6 a.m. workouts and all of that. It's just yeah, it's a it's yeah.

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I like I said, I got 10 years of this energy, so yeah, yeah.

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You gotta we we bank on thinking we're gonna have energy forever, and that's just not the case. Him and I always had that conversation, and I'm like, hey, when you think you have that a um expire date or a perishable date or whatever, I'm like, it's just yeah, it changes your concept of hey, how much shit I have to get done right now. For sure. Exactly right. Well, you've been in the business for quite a bit, so I want to hear something that I don't know if we're is does YouTube censor us or not? Uh they they make we'll make it. I want to hear your craziest real estate stories. You have to like share something. Well, he's had some crazy ones, so we didn't get into those.

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You didn't give me any heads up, and I gotta like whack my deep. Alright, we'll come back to that question. Don't worry.

Money, Longevity, And Price Points

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It's okay, let's come back into that. Um so to give you a little kudos, sure. You have inspired me because him and I were going to 5 a.m. Um yoga for like year or two years, and we kind of took a little break. But seeing you uh at 6 a.m. at Planet Fitness re-expired this week, I just got back into it. Love it. So I appreciate it. So tell us a little about your your routine because you feel like you've been doing about a year now. It's been a little over a year.

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Yeah, you know, a couple of moments where you fall off. I mean, my goal is really to be in the four to five times a week. It's nothing crazy. It's just a it's you know, it's an you know, I'll be at the gym for about an hour. It is cool. I mean, I get they got red light there for the skin. You know, a little bit of you know, little things that they've got there, the hydro massage machines at the end, that kind of stuff. But really, it's just about the routine. It is, it's about making sure I'm getting my ass up in the morning. Um, you know, we Rich Robletto and I at the office started a book club. It's like I love to read, and I am the worst reader in the world, too. Yeah. So I'm trying to make sure that I'm getting to the gym, staying, you know, trying to, and it is a try for me, sorry, but it is an intention. There is at the same time, there is that it's it's something I still, you know, I've got a still a weight loss journey that I'm on to work towards. But if I know I'm getting up and doing that, I'm you know, up early, I'm at the office at a decent hour, then you know what, I know my day is going to go a lot better. So I just always feel better. Like I didn't go to the gym this morning, and it wasn't anything I'm also sore, man. That's what, but uh, but it was just one of those things. I also, you know, I had an earlier meeting, so I didn't go, but you know, I know I'll go tomorrow and I'll probably make it up on Saturday. Yeah, so it's just getting that movement in the morning.

SPEAKER_01

See myself, I'm doing yoga like most of the time. That's awesome, yeah. But I'm not even a huge yoga person, but I think it's just a movement, the blood flow because you know in sales, it's like that detail, just like making that quick reaction could be the difference of you getting a sale or not, right and having energy in the day.

SPEAKER_04

The energy definitely helps, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So I have a question because you have been in the business for so long. So what is and I think I know the answer. Yeah, so if you if you guys need somebody that is very 30, 30 years, very well versed, Sean is your guy. It's like Sean is your guy, is somebody that's been in the business, and it's he's the type of realtor that he'll yeah, uh pre-pace a lot, which I appreciate because you're a talker just like I am, and you can still go grab a beer with him as well. Okay, so it'll be cool. Because I'll talk. What is what is something in your career that has felt risky at the time and now has paid a ton of dividends?

SPEAKER_04

Well, uh honestly, moving moving from well, yeah, the move to virtue is definitely thank you, Sean. Honestly, the um well honestly about yeah, when I made the move to when I moved out of sales full-time into the management side, it was a risk. I mean, I had been at the time, you know, as an agent for 20 years. So I've been like, all right, I've done so much and I've done all and you know, and what can I what new can I learn? And honestly, going into that was a huge risk. I I didn't do things 100% the right way in terms of knowing that you know, more than likely my sales business was going to be there at the end or all, and it was always there even during, but it could have been stronger or done differently.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

Learn By Joining A Team

SPEAKER_04

Um, but what I learned in a leadership role, learning to manage, you know, almost upwards of 200 agents at one point, uh, being part of a management team of a four brokerage or four office brokerage, what you know, the what Keller Williams International poured into us as lead. I mean, so being able to it taught me how to speak to people better, it's sp taught me how to listen at a better level. Still struggle and work on that, but I'm a better listener than I was. Um, that program. Yeah, well, that's just what that was. Yeah, well, it was a role that I was in that the average lifespan. The average lifespan of a team leader to KW is like 18 months, and I made it eight years. So I mean it was just because I the company kept pouring back into me. So it was a risk, and I and it was some there was some you know financial risks involved, and at the same point, what I got out of it, you know, will help me grow and move forward. So that's probably the biggest risk in my business that I've taken.

SPEAKER_01

You know, that's cool. So you talked about leadership, so I know you said listening. Was there anything else that kind of stand out in leadership? Because you were in that role for a while.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I mean, really, it was it was a little bit of everything. It was talking about, you know, was managing staff, it was again talking, you know, we're in a business that, you know, agents can come and go. My focus and the and my job was was growth of the company, was you know, was uh retention of agents and creating systems that would make people not want to, well, hey, you know what? We can't win them all, you know, and that's okay. It was like in all the things that you know I did go through and learn and just I mean your guys' personal situations.

SPEAKER_05

But tell me I did not give you the warmest welcome when you came over. Of course you did.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we were friends after you left, so it's all good. Yeah, and that's the thing, is you're not gonna usually let business get in the way of things like that. But it's just you know, learning how to do, I mean, uh you have 200 agents, you have 200 different personalities in 200 wanting different, I mean, they all want the same thing.

SPEAKER_05

I have 200 different personalities. Yeah, just you, exactly right. So I was dealing with 400 at some point.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, just like so. When you have people coming at you, and whether it's staff, you know, your your agents, you know, whatever it is, you got vendors coming at you trying, you know, as as kind of the gatekeeper of the office. And so it's just learning how to deal with all that and manage it and still get your job done. You know, so it was a little bit of it's you're put into it, you're given a title of CEO. I know it's kind of a corny title to have it, but it's like you're you my job was to run that brokerage and make sure shit went the right way. Right. And uh, and so and it didn't always go the right way, and I would learn from it. And you know, I had great ownership and leadership above me that helped out too, yeah. That I learned a ton from. And everybody is very okay with however things went, whether they were the greatest turnout or the you know, or the worst turnout. You live and you learn, right? Exactly right. And you just never know.

SPEAKER_05

Leadership is a lot.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and that's the thing, is like even like do I, you know, people keep asking, are you starting to start your team up? I was just gonna ask, you literally, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like, so if somebody is liking your vibe right now, watching the pod, and they're like, you know what, I want to learn from Sean Marion or be his showing assistant, would you consider it? Or what does that look like?

Goals: Rebuild To 30 Transactions

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I would say, you know, give me a call, come to Virtue and be at the brokerage, and I'll uh my door is always open. Yeah. Am I ready? I'm not there quite yet. Yes, I think it would be probably the push that would make me do a few more things, but I'm just not quite ready there yet. I think. When do you think it would take for you to be? Um, honestly, a lot of I mean, just you know, a lot of cool life things going on. My daughter's graduating high school and we're moving her off to college this summer, and just look, and there's and the things leading up to all of that and trying to live life and enjoy life all together. So I think it's like just making sure, and and that's one of those things like we'll be empty nesters after this. And you know, my wife is cruising on her career and it's growing and blowing up, and I think that you know, two adults focused on our careers, even at this stage of our life, is going to allow for a lot of big things to happen in our business. So I'm looking at it as I'm as I again one of the things that you learned at KW, always be always have an idea of building a bench. Always have an idea of who's in the wings that could be a good fit for you when you're ready. And maybe it's a person that you want to bring on even if you're not ready because there's such good talent. So my eyeballs are open. Um, but I would love to just get back into have talked to Amber at the office just about maybe teaching a little bit more at the office, being out there a little bit more and having us all do that. Um, it will just attract more people to the brokerage, too, that we're, you know, that we want to have around good energy.

SPEAKER_05

So I want to hear what is has been the most fun now that you don't have to be in the office from eight to five or nine to five. Now that you've gotten some freedom back with just being in sales, there also has to come a level of discipline. But what have you enjoyed taking back or doing, or whether it's lunches with clients, you know, that's I think that's really what it is, it's that flexibility of.

SPEAKER_04

Knowing that you know I worked with clients still in the management side, but I was very very regimented about being in the office. Being able to go meet clients when I want, when you know, without any other things tying me down. Yeah, whether it's lunches, hanging out with clients, you know, hanging out with you guys, hanging out with other agents, happy hours we do, events we're doing at the office. Yeah, I did those, but it was like you did them because you're the boss of the office. So you had to be there where it's like, hey, if something comes up, it's like, oh, I get to go do that. Oh, we get to go do First Friday. We get to go hang out downtown. We get to, you know, we get to pop a beer in the office and hang and talk a little bit. And that's just that flexibility without, yeah, we've got people to and clients to deal with, but yeah, there's just a you know, getting home at a decent hour, coming into the office a little later. I was a 7:30 at the office, you know, manager. And it's like I made sure my ass was there and having that flexibility of like, you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna sit at home and have coffee with my wife in the morning and shoot the shit and make sure our life is going good, and and then come in whenever I want, make sure I'm I can work shit. If I want to work from home all damn day, I do. Yeah, so there's it is it's the that freedom is there. The yes, this can easily be a 40, 50, 60 hour a week job, but it also does not have to be. Right. You can do you can do this job at a very, very high level at you know 20 and 30 hours a week, depending if you got your structure down. If you've got your efficiencies down, your structures and your systems down. Yeah, we've covered that as of lately. So that's what I'm enjoying. I mean, I'm enjoying that and still moving business. Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

There's a different type of relationship too, right? When you're team lead versus an agent in the office.

SPEAKER_04

So but I do enjoy coming in every day too. So that's one of the lessons.

Routine, Energy, And 6 A.M. Workouts

SPEAKER_01

I know in the last year, him and I, I mean, like it's been kind of nice not having like team members because it's there's more flexibility and you can kind of do what you you know. Exactly right. You still gotta stick to a schedule, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you do. And it's but yeah, that's the nice thing about having you those people will keep you regimented for sure.

SPEAKER_01

You have to, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So it just depends on what you want. That's again a joy of this business. You get to do this however you want. Yeah, however you want to do it is the right way. Yeah. So there's no wrong way of doing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I like that. I like that too. Yeah. So what's your favorite bar downtown? Ha. Oh.

SPEAKER_05

That's just appears really quick. You know what? We're moving to personal.

SPEAKER_04

Right? We're moving a person. Well, there's a lot of little different, you know, spots and reasons why we're all audio bar type of. Well, I okay. So I like I love no, I love audio bar. I do too. I love the story around audio bar. I was introduced to the owner and this the guy who started it, and it just is he's almost become like a passion project of mine and my friend and my families and stuff. Like, we love supporting him, and he's got a cool vibe there. If I'm going down to have a beer, you know, it's probably if I'm on Fremont, I I love going to Park. I love going to, you know, uh, if we're in the arts district, I would say, you know, like rebar or something. Actually, even hop hanging out with you guys, was it Hopnuts? Is it a real cool vibe there? Um Dustland is a little bit. We gotta get him on the line. Love that spot that spot. I mean, and again, every week there's something new opening up. I mean, I love it have you found the Viking one yet? Uh, we so no, we were we walked by then there was a line. But yeah, my brother-in-law like is was like, oh my god, you see this place, so we definitely want to go check that out too. But yeah, every week there's something opening up. We love going to be a little bit more. We'll be down there tomorrow.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, tell Chris if he's available. I will. I'll hit him up and see what he's doing.

SPEAKER_04

But yeah, I mean, any anywhere down there, I mean, there's really nowhere else. I I mean, I we Brandy and I still will pop onto the strip here and there, and you know, we'll go different, but there's you know, even I'm I'm kind of I'm uh if it's during the day I'm down with Fremont Street East, I'm about over Fremont Street East at night anymore. So yeah, during the day, like Park. It can be like Park Commonwealth, uh corduroy still love it, but during it, it's almost like as soon as it's been there at night. Yeah, as soon as the sun goes down, I'm kind of over it now. Arts District is life, you know, for going out. There's going for brunch, finding it. It's crazy. It's too crazy, and I love it, and there's so many different options and so many different people, and and it's just a fun freaking place to be.

SPEAKER_05

Now, if I can be outdoors, I'll be outdoors.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, give me a patio too. Yeah, and and and that's like where I'm leaning towards, you know, with with my uh with my fun is give me a bar with a patio.

SPEAKER_05

Right, yeah, that's me.

SPEAKER_04

If I'm not my own backyard, you get allergies at all. I'm like, I'll still take you out the yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's that's where I mean, and give me a good brunch and you know, anywhere 7th and Carson, the chillest places, give me, they don't have to be fancy, yeah. There's amazing brunches on on the strip, but give me 18 bin on the weekends with a freaking great DJ on the patio. Do they have good food though? It's it is good enough. Oh and I've never had that. That's my thing, is it's good enough, and it's not there, it's there's good options there. The D the scene is always awesome. You know, give me a bottomless mimosa.

SPEAKER_05

I'm still how did you feel about Pepper Club closing up? Um I really like Pepper Club.

SPEAKER_04

We did too. Um we didn't go there as I would bring it would come up, but we didn't go there as often as we like to. But I I'm kind of bummed that it closed because it was always a good option.

SPEAKER_01

I was there to something go back. That spot is.

SPEAKER_04

There is, there's another spot filling it up. Um I've I've tried to keep track of everything down there, but yeah, there's something that's going in there. It was uh just notice later.

SPEAKER_01

There's a new uh bar.

SPEAKER_04

Man, I can't remember the street. There's something new I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, you did say that last time we were there for Friday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

There's so many, there's so many cool. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Every time you go down there, there's a new bar open. I've just I've never experienced that in anywhere you lived.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I don't think we've ever lived anywhere where anything's grown as fast as the arts district has. It's kind of like it reminds me of apartments coming up. It kind of reminds me of like side. It's kind of almost like how gas lamp was growing in San Diego, and it was it was it was probably similar, even though I didn't live there.

SPEAKER_05

But that last time I was there, ghetto so rattled.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we're going down there for a concert like in May, so hopefully it's not too much. But that's why I Ratchet.

SPEAKER_05

I thought you guys, I was back with my Bay Area people in like the not good part of Oakland. Yeah, there you go. Well, that happens. There you go.

SPEAKER_04

Happens to the best spots. Hopefully, it won't happen to the arts district. Yeah, no, no, I don't think so. It's too it's too much fun. It's too many, too many good spots for sure. It's all and it's all good people open in spots down here. And that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_05

I think it'll stay that way because the vibe will stay that way. Yeah, I think so too.

SPEAKER_04

For sure, for sure. Do you take any cool trips this year? Um, what have we done? Have we done anything so far this year? My gosh. Uh we've got, we've like I said, we're going down to see a concert in San Diego. Um we have, no, we're gonna see Bob Moses. So it's uh yeah. And then um I'm going up to Seattle to see my son, uh, see Maguire up there in uh in so oh in like a week or two. So I'll be up there for the weekend. It's uh St. Patrick's Day, like weekend before. So it's just he and I, and we're just gonna kind of go roam the streets instead of downtown Seattle. So looking forward to that. Like I said, taking the taking the daughter to college in August. So um we'll see if there's a trip plan maybe. We know we look at Mexico, but you know, it's like always the questions of what's going on in Mexico these days. So I'll be there next week. There you go.

SPEAKER_05

I don't it doesn't usually be. I'm sure it's safe.

SPEAKER_04

It doesn't usually scare me. It's who are we with that has has the worries. So uh no major, no, nothing huge, huge, uh, but we'll see what happens. You never know. We're we're kind of drop of a hat kind of travelers, too.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's uh you went to Vietnam, what'd you think of that?

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, I guess that was a pretty good see man, I forget things. Wow, yeah, yeah. I told him bring that up. Yeah, um Randy, don't take a picture. Yeah, was was invited to uh one of our boys' uh wedding, so is actually an agent at KW and he's become a really good friend. Great kid. Him and his his now wife Viv are uh were just they invited us to their wedding in Vietnam. We really wanted to go and make it happen. We were so crazy busy with life, we were almost not going to. We went to dinner and they in they asked me to uh officiate their wedding, so we couldn't say no. So amazing, amazing trip. Vietnam is now.

SPEAKER_05

Well, at least you got an invitation.

SPEAKER_04

It is true. All right, yeah, bring that up with Randy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, Randy, I thought we were cool after everything we've been through, bro.

SPEAKER_04

But yeah, that was that was phenomenal, and we will go back. That's like now having that on and checking it out and seeing it, it is worth it is worth the 24 hours of travel to get there. It's awesome. So we'll probably mix that in with a little Thailand or something like that. So yeah, thanks for that. See, I knew I did something this year.

SPEAKER_00

The year flies, man.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're gonna wrap this up, bro. So that was my really quick George Hernandez.

SPEAKER_02

You see this guy downtown, buy him a beer guy.