Welcome And What We Cover

SPEAKER_04 0:13

Hey guys, it's John Macman host Running Vegas. We're talking local sports, business, real estate. You guys see what you like, subscribe, follow us. I'll run in Vegas podcast.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

Let's talk Jamal Ely in the house.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

It's hard to follow that, man. It is so hard to follow. It's the energy, dude. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 0:36

You're an energy guy. So thank you. I know what you bring.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Oh, yeah, man. I appreciate that. Thanks for having me on, dude. This is so cool.

SPEAKER_04 0:42

It's been a minute. You're on season one, 2024. I think we're on like season three now.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

My God, I'm still here. I'm still here. Thank you, guys.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

And this real estate, Mark, you gotta love it.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

You know, it's it's a character building uh sport, just like any other sport. Like real estate's a very contact-based place. So I'm very glad that we're both hey, we're both sitting in here. Yes, sir. It's a lovely day.

A Year Of Travel And Change

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Awesome. So, what what's been going on the last year since you've been, we haven't seen you on the pod.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Can I tell you something? Um, if we're gonna be honest, last year was probably one of my best, most growing years. Obviously, I've gotten to talk to you, but I went to Costa Rica for two weeks, I went to Japan for a month, I did all these trips, and literally from that, uh at the end of the year, uh, my mom went in the hospice. And let me tell you, it was one of the biggest growth things that I've ever done. I really found out and dug deep in my identities, made a lot of good decisions this year that helped. And it's always like these crazy blessings and how we reframe it. I have literally have a whole different perspective and I'm in a whole different positive mindset from all of it. So even the bad, the good, and everything in between, it has been so character building and so lovely. So I'm you know, I'm appreciative every day, and I'm just glad to get to still hang out with you, man.

Hospice Care And Reframing Grief

SPEAKER_04 2:04

Yeah, it's same. Yeah. Well, you're like one of the most positive people I know. I've known you for like four years, give or take. Yeah, dude. So you to say that you're now like more positive. Do you mind just sharing like you the lessons and the growth that you've over the last year a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Yeah, you know what's crazy is that so most of my family is, you know, already deceased, unalived, as the kids say these days. Uh, my mom, you know, we had an opportunity, we'll say in 2020, 2016. I got back from literally Russia, and I had this huge experience, and I found out that I wanted to create this 501c3, which was project positive. My father and my grandfather actually died in Nathan Alison in hospice care. So when my mom went to hospice, I said, absolutely not, no, no, no. Uh I ended up taking care of her. She's still under my care. Thank God, you know, every every moment's valuable. But from that experience, it's kind of the things that we do and the things that set up us for in life. But because I was in hospice for, you know, just volunteering for three years, uh, it gave me all these different things that I didn't even know were possible. Uh, what I came down to was I had this identity of being a son. And I think that was the scariest thing that could have ever kind of uh let loose of because you know, you gotta think, especially in your situation, we're our first job and our first identity is a son. So when I had the opportunity to take care of my mom, I think that was my biggest growth, uh kind of growth moment was it wasn't about me, but I do have an obligation to do this job the best I can with the time I have to make it a better transition for her and just let her know she was loved. So it took me a long time for that. And you know, when you first, you know, basically in October, I was, you know, you you don't like what's going on in the world, you think it's cruel. But when you reframe things and you really understand what's important to life, that was my biggest jumping off point, just to be like, man, I get to give her a good ending, and I get to do the last of my identity of being a son the best I could possibly can. So that's kind of how I reframed it. Um, I read a really good book, Book of Joy. It's about the Dalai Lama and Desmond Tutu, were phenomenal, but it was big things than like sitting in your grief and understanding what's important. So as this, you know, one of these parts of you know, my hat or identity is leaving me, I get to really be aware and conscious of like what's really important of it. So that was my big, huge like mind shut shift into it. So now I get to help her every day and it's it's way, way easier. Wow. I don't want to get so heavy, oh my god. But yeah, that was my real estate. That was my biggest thing. I know, right? But it does come into mind.

Empathy As A Real Estate Advantage

SPEAKER_04 4:45

I appreciate you being vulnerable on the pockets. I just I didn't think you were gonna talk about that, but that's that's uh that's a lot to go through.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

So yeah, but I think it goes into real estate because when people go through probate and they go through hospice and they go through the death of a loved one, it's so funny because you can never be a part of it, but you can have that relevance and you can help them through the process just from the things that you kind of experience. So I think in real estate, that's what we look for the authenticity, the genuine aspect of it, and us being able to help not for a dollar sign, but for a better experience.

SPEAKER_04 5:16

Yeah, people feel that. And I think when you go through things in life, you have more empathy. And as you know, with our clients, we have to have like it or not, if you want to be good at your job, is have that empathy. Because that's how you connect, that's how you build trust, that's how you build rapport. And you're obviously already good at that, but obviously the last year you it's like you've gone to this another level mentally, and so I I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yeah, dude, I love it. And that's I think that's another thing that we have to look at is like people aren't just a number, they're they're literally people. And once you make that, you know, you've been in business for double the time I've been in business, but you've been a great role model in that sense. Because uh, I had really good mentors, and their whole thing was like, dude, I haven't earned the right to complain yet. So we have to constantly be changing, pivoting, and bettering our service for our clients, and more importantly for ourselves. Like that's I think that's a huge part of it, is just being better every day.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

So yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think and I think you hit on the nose too, is once you treat your clients like people, you know, like a friend or like a bid, right? Yeah, right. But I know because like the first couple years in the business, I was like, deal listing, like I was real estate, John, you know, because you think that's cool, but it's once you make that shift, like your business goes to a whole different level. Then you enjoy the business more because you actually appreciate, like, sometimes love some of these people. You be you you create relationships and friendships with your clients. So yeah, it's it's a pretty cool industry to be a part of if if you're willing to go through the growth of it. Yeah, because 21 years later, I'm still learning and I'm still growing.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

So I didn't get these uh wisdom sparkles for no reason, dude. I love it, man. So what's been what's been new with you, dude?

Switching To Coldwell Banker

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Just you know, selling houses, you know, enjoying the ups and downs of the market. First quarter was a good one, so we'll keep it riding. But you got big news.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah, I actually do we get to break it on the pot. We do. I actually made a switch to uh Coldwell Banker. I'm very excited about that. It's a Bob, right? Bob and Molly, I love you guys. They did a lot, but honestly, like the value proposition of it, uh, what they provided, the things that really spoke to me. I never thought I'd be back going to a corporate brokerage. Obviously, much love to you know, signature to virtue to Berkshire to all these things. Um, but just like I said, you always have to be growing, and I just felt like we were aligned, and uh, they really, really made me feel valuable. So, I mean, they really pulled all the stuff. So I do appreciate them. Shout out to C B. But yeah, I'm excited to be there. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

I was at CB, gosh, 15 years ago. I know.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

You're one of the people I called.

unknown 7:54

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

Absolutely. I'm always honest. Um, but yeah, so tell us about that process because you know it's I don't think we've ever talked about on the pod before, but like choosing a brokerage, what goes into it. Obviously, you felt valued. I think I'm the same way, and I think a lot of us are. Once we feel valued, we want to be a part of something in culture. And I it seems like a lot of folks in the industry, I'm seeing a lot of them going to Cobalt Banker. So maybe something's in the water last couple of years or not, but um, especially a lot of folks in Berkshire I see are going to Cobalt. So what's that about?

SPEAKER_01 8:29

And honestly, that's not, but I think uh there was a really um I I I interviewed eight different brokerages, right? I think the biggest thing in the brokerage of what your value statement is and how you can grow. You always have to look like future alignments when when you're when you're picking a new brokerage. And it's not just you know looking at the franchise fees, looking at the splits, it's looking at who you want to become, uh, who you're aligned with, who are the role models there and mentors that you can kind of facilitate your with, what are their programs, how do they, how are they gonna inspire you to get back out there, especially if you're not at your best. Um, I we we had two really good brokerages at the very end of it. Obviously, Virtue was up there as well. And at the end of the day, what really made the difference is that they CB honestly had my he they had John Joseph call me, they had all these people who were on there. Matt Mullins was was a really big integral part of me switching over. They were one of the only ones who talked about the base and foundation other than real estate. They, you know, with everything going on with my mom and everything else, they were the only ones who multiple times called out, asked about her. That's way more than money. And I've always been understanding like I don't care about a split, I care about how much income I make.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

So if I can have not only a better service standard, but I can be more energized when I go to these listing presentations that I, you know, now we're sometime in the business, I'm coming up in my 10th year. Whereas everything built that foundation, but if you don't feel energized to go in, I could be you could be 200% brokerage, but how much money are you gonna make in? How is this increasing my service standards? With CB, I just felt like it was gonna be something that I could grow into. They gave me different kinds of incentives, and I really felt like excited to go in there. Not to sound like I mean it was between Huntington, LSM, and Virtue, and they literally like all three were phenomenal. CB was one of the most higher the higher ones on the splits, next to like Sotherby's, but they just really showed love, cared, had basically every single person who I knew there, they reached out to me and told me like the value proposition. So if nothing else, I look at that because in our business, that's what we try to do as well is bridge those gaps. Yeah, and that's what I look for. And it was just them having the people to make me feel valued and go out of the way to call. And you know, they got me. It was it was really good. And I take that as something I need to implement more, is just getting more people involved and having that community. So, you know, it's good.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

That's great brokerage. I mean, yeah, the leadership when you got, you know, Mullen, great respect for him, what he's been doing over the years. John Joseph actually he he coached me for about a year or two, and he actually, when I first moved to Vegas, he helped me. I was doing expired to New York, but he helped me understand the market a little bit better and what worked. And Molly is probably one of the best brokers in town. Um, but I remember being like part of that too, and it seems like it's still that way. It's it is a little family-oriented, which is nice too, and people generally like each other there. So uh happy hours at all.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Oh, excuse me, say less. You should say that first happy house. I'm excited already. So it's it's been good. I literally just signed my chats for paperwork on yesterday. So I'm I'm you know, still doing deals, still doing everything else. I have immense respect for George and Brandon and everyone else. Just really excited for myself and just the, you know, just like I said, just the growth and everything to be with my mom, and you know, I travel a lot and do everything else. I mean, that's now more important than ever for me, just to know that like you feel valued, you feel love, because even in like these situations where you have to reframe, every day is not gonna be great. Yeah, but every day is a different opportunity to be the best version of yourself. So I take I don't take that lightly and you know, excited for it.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

Well, it's something you're aligned with your brokerage, and obviously Bob brings great energy too.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Yeah, that's yeah, yeah. Bob's Bob is he's a different kind of animal and I love it.

AI, Zillow, And Real Conversations

SPEAKER_04 12:27

So it's I can see that aligning. So congrats. So what do you focus on? Your big you're moving to this new brokerage, what are you focused on?

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Do you know what's uh now that I'm learning, it's more like third-party confirmation. So basically, you got to be the source of resource. If everything, everything in news is gonna be kind of like you know, up and down, how can I bring this positive positivity to straight conversations? Because how many times, especially with everything in AI, you know, there's all these different things, but I treat AI like the Zillow's estimate.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

You know what I mean? Like if you go down and you're on these Zillow's estimates, it tells you, like, yo, this is not that the AI is very is very biased on when you do things. So my whole thing is when I talk about third-party confirmation, how can I put conversation starters in there? A perfect example is we have the new Fed chair, right? A lot of people don't even know how the Federal Reserve works. There's 12 governors, there's all these things, and pretty much the new Fed chair is just the mouthpiece to basically this committee of people. There's a lot of people who are on the fence about selling and buying, but if I put that in there, and if you know this is just daily news that you can take the way you want to, but it starts a conversation. So a lot, and especially with expired, with for sale by owners, if you put these conversation pieces and we actually can have a conversation about that, you know what we're not having a conversation about? Why I'm the best agent, why you should choose, because I'm showing, I'm I'm demonstrating to you why and how I basically put my market expertise in there. Yeah, when people are looking at AI and Zillow, you know, all these other things, you know, I'm definitely understanding that more people want to work with the humanity, like the basic the humanity of the business instead of the technology of the business.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

You know, like Surhan, everyone talks about that Surhan thing where you lost that deal, but no one talks about how that dude lost out$40,000 and underpriced his house today. Yeah. When we understand how the business works, we know that the market's 45 days behind because of how escros work. Yep. So it's not about basically taking advantage of the market, it's being how do we do how do we reciprocate that to our clients for them to take advantage and understand like the actual truth of the market to get them where they're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

Yeah, I think it on the notes there is we have the pulse of the market because a lot of the data and information is coming out, it's always behind. Sometimes it's a year behind. They're talking about what stats from last year and how it affects now, and it's like, no, what's going on right now? You know, so and the fact that your conversation base is huge because we teach that to our team is have five, ten good conversations a day if you want to be selling a lot of real estate, especially with AI in the world right now. I think you hit on the nose is like we want like an authentic conversation, because you can tell the difference AI and like a human being right now, like it's not there yet. I'm sure in a couple of years it will be, but as of right now, those conversations are huge, and that's how you build connection, that's how you remember each other. Yeah, so I love that.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Yeah, you just gotta use it as a tool, and everyone uses tools differently. But you know, if you're a robotic agent, you're just gonna be more of a robotic agent.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

If you're not internalizing these things and you're not actually bringing what's gonna help them, everything in our business is hyperlocal. So depending on turnover ratios, depending on you know price points, if we tell people, yo, the average went down, but you know, there's only like 22 houses over three million dollars, and the luxury market's moving faster than the speed of light right now. Well, phenomenal. But for our people under$500,000, market volatility is there, they you know, there's all these different understandings. What are we doing as agents to appease that and make them understand that the world's not on fire? And there's avenues and outlets where they could use from HELOCs to refinances to get them out of that so they can literally use that into it. Not everything is buying and selling. We don't want to see, you know, people are like trying to sell out of their normal. Well, what's a better normal look like to you? Yeah, so it's not the same, it's not the new normal, it's the better normal for our clients. People don't buy houses, they buy closets, they buy, they buy security, they buy these things. That's what we should be talking about. Yeah, what are they for instead of being like, well, who's you know, who do you know is buying and selling? Hey, what's going on in your neighborhood? Yeah, how can I reframe that? How can I talk about stuff that they care about? Yeah. Now, now I'm a real person. AI is never gonna be able to do that. Yeah, so you know, people are afraid of technology, but it's a tool just like anything else. Yeah, if you told the caveman that the wheel was gonna turn into a car, what would they have said? It's insane.

SPEAKER_04 16:58

Are you gonna ever have AI start calling and be you?

SPEAKER_01 17:02

No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Because AI can never be me. AI can never take the play, unless you're just an NPC. If you're one of the people who just thinks like there's in there, like you're a flash in the pan, but it's not automated and duplicatable. You can never duplicate the humanity of it, the empathy of it. Yeah, because if I go into AI and think about the complete bias, and even in my, you know, what I've been doing with my mom and everything else, they're never gonna come to that conclusion.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

You, that's the crazy part, you have to come to that conclusion for yourself, and it takes hard work. There's no easy button. Yeah, there's just you doing the hard work to put you in a situation that's gonna make a difference in someone's experience. Now, that's the beauty of humanity. Technology, no, I'm not worried about it, but I I do use it.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Yeah. Well, it's good to stay on technology, but I love how you put it is ultimately what you do is you come from contribution. Yeah, and then once you shift that with your business and you you reach out to your clients and be a human being and actually just try to help them. Because, like I'm having more conversations about HELOCs, you know, in the last year. So I'm glad we had Caitlin on here talking about HELOC's uh our lender, that that's a great tool because it's not always about selling the house or refinance it. It's do you want to actually stay in the house? There's other options for you. So I love that.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

You know, the that's the whole thing. The more that we're understanding of the different products that we can provide, that's just another notch on our belt to help our clients get what they want when they want. So, you know, big proponents. You know, with with with age and experience, the conversations seem to change. It's crazy, but it's only with the people who are doing, who are in there and who actually trying to better themselves that can have the conversation. So I respect you so much. I love you know, I love being on these things.

Leadership, Advocacy, And Service

SPEAKER_04 18:42

I appreciate you, man. I learned a lot from you. So you're on a leadership group this past year, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Yeah, I'm the chair of diversity, so I'm like their token. Thanks, LBR. Thanks, LBR. We're uh we're real good. I mean, I I understand the importance of advocacy and within these two roles, you know, within these years, I have state positions, I have NAR positions, and I have LBR positions, but it's never been important to be um, you know, just an advocate for a community and what realtors do. And I think that's the best way to educate and literally let people know what avenues they have to get better, what things that are going to be driving their industry, and more importantly, where there's like-minded people to literally deliver a better service standard. Ethical, morality, all the other things should be a part of it. What I've learned in just LVR is you know, sometimes our association can be on fire, but there are so many wonderful people in the building that are trying to make a change. That's what I advocate for. So I'm happy to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_04 19:43

My uh it's good, that's good they have you until January. A lot of things are going on in Galvar, but lax songs? We won't get into that today, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

No, but it's all good things, man. Like I said, if I have constituents that I have to be responsible for, and I'm just excited because the things that we do there and the things that I've been able to do have already shown value, and we've put a lot of, you know, just we we've been able to prop a lot of agents up through content, through all these other things, and a lot of people have gotten a lot from it. So for that, like that has nothing to do with L VR and the associations, everything you know that L VR puts us in the you know, the building for. But it's still up to you to make the difference and really show and and design people for it. So I'm happy to I get to be able to listen.

Japan, Purpose, And Better Living

SPEAKER_04 20:31

Like you said, there's good people everywhere, and yeah, it's good to hear that you're a part of that. And yeah, yeah, it's good. So you've been traveling a lot, like what's been like your favorite spots?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

What have you Japan ruined my life, honestly? Let me tell you why. It I we did a month in Japan. I always try to have like two international vacations, you know, just from real estate and all the things that we do. With respite care, it's been hard, but let me tell you, I've been to over 40 countries, I've been to Russia, all over Asia, all these things. First time in Japan for a month, we went, did all these adventures. It was the first time I've ever had it where you get like a post-depression from going to a place. They're just amazing. They do everything. I like that. They are because the things that I think we lack in America is they have a purpose for everything. Yeah, absolutely insane. Like they had this TV show that I absolutely was glued to, where think about like um America's Got Talent or something, one of those. And they had it where they had celebrities, like a panel, like a panel of different celebrities and comedians, but they would follow around regular workers. So think about like your rail system, your garbage, your janitors, and stuff like that, and just love on them. And not even to the thing where you you know, like Mike Rowe from dirty jobs or stuff, where people like, I would never do that. Yeah, they had switched the reframing where you gained them more appreciation for what these simple things do. So that's why people don't, you know, you have to walk with your trash, you have to do it, but it It was just everything had a purpose and was supposed to be there. So for that, like ooh.

SPEAKER_04 22:05

It seems it's definitely like a bucket list. I've I've had like three or four friends go to Japan and just rave about it. I read it, I can't remember the book right now, but yeah, the community is just a different level of values, and that's why they they live forever because they have their purpose. Even older folks, like in their 80s, 90s, 100s, they still have purpose because of it's about community and they're minimalist, and it's they they clean like everything's clean, I heard.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

They have uh the goal that was the to the Toyota book, phenomenal about basically Toyota and Harry F and Henry Ford on how they just maximize their process and for distribution. Phenomenal book, and then Ikigai and Kaizen. Those are they have like these four principles, but those two books, audible, read them. So, no, it was the goal, yeah. The goal and then Ikigai and Kaizen were phenomenal. I still use a lot of their and I've implemented a lot of their principles in there, so good things. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

You going back to Japan anytime soon?

SPEAKER_01 23:08

God, I hope so. You know, with the rest of it, you only get five days, and I'm happy to do it. But I have I go to Seattle uh twice. Um, I have a our next big one we're going back to the Netherlands. So yeah, so we're gonna spend time in um obviously Amsterdam, go to The Hague, go to a couple other places, but yeah, we're really scoping out. I think one of my tenure goals is that basically to move out there. Okay. So that's you know, that's gonna be my international country.

SPEAKER_04 23:37

Yeah. Okay. Why'd you sign on the Netherlands?

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Uh funny enough, Cudwell Baker has a uh has an office out there.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Uh with they have a DAF policy, basically the DAF Treaty, the Dutch American friendly treaty. It's probably the easiest place you can go there for it. I have a uh basically attorney who's working a lot, and obviously with our trade practice right now, everything's on hold. Right. But there's a ton of ways where you can like live overseas and really like still be profitable.

SPEAKER_04 24:04

Oh, wow. Okay. I didn't know this. I gotta learn.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Yeah, good thanks, good thanks.

SPEAKER_04 24:09

Awesome.

NFL Talk And Patriots Loyalty

SPEAKER_01 24:09

But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

So we got football coming up. NFL release of schedules today.

SPEAKER_04 24:17

I know, I'm very excited. Patriots.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Patriots, Patriots all day, dude.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Tom Brady, are you a Patriots fan or Tom Brady fan? I'm a Patriots fan.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

I've uh been a Patriots fan since '96. No, I know. Uh good good old Drew Blessow, guys.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

Shout out to Drew. I think I was, oh, I might have been like, yeah, whenever Drew got drafted, it might have been like '93, '91? '91. Oh, yeah. Because my dad like liked Bill Parcells, and Drew got and I then they were so bad and then became good, the irony of it all.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

But Drew, you know, Drew almost died on that day. He actually lost consciousness on the ambulance. I I love that guy. I got to meet him a couple of times, him and Linda. Yeah. You met him? When he oh many times. They uh Walla Walla, I was living in Washington. So I very elusive uh. Oh, yeah, because he went to Washington State, right? Walla Walla, baby. He was a pride. The first game, the reason why I'm a big Patriots fan, the first game I ever went to was the Apple Cup. He played in Pullman for Washington State. The quarterback of Washington, you was Mark Brunel. So they lost that game, but I actually got to meet Brew Bletso when I was six or seven years old. And then, yeah, it goes on from there. But I've been a huge Bletso fan as long as as long as I was able to go sit, you know, go pat.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

I love it. What do you what do you think of last year with the season?

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Jeez.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

Were you a little torn? You're a Washington guy.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Yeah. Uh, you know, for me Seattle being in it, were you I worked for the Seahawks, funny enough. No, I know you did. That's what I'm saying. Were you a little torn? No, absolutely not. You know, red, white, and blue. I don't my colors don't bleed. Okay. I have many pictures of me in full Patriots for Gail before we even went and played them in this uh in the super in the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

But yeah, all my thing, I'll show you. Like all when I was in the old uh Lumens fields and everything else. So well with CenturyLink when I worked there, but those were the good years. So yeah, like I'm excited. You know, Vrabel did some stuff, but what do you think about it?

SPEAKER_04 26:12

What do you what's your thoughts on the case?

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I'm not gonna pass judgment when Kraft is out here in massage parlors. I don't know if I like it just par quo, you know what I mean? But he's a great coach. I mean, obviously, we had so many breaks with Bo Nicks going out, all these other things. So it was you know it was great to see it, but I knew kind of the outcome of it is.

SPEAKER_04 26:29

But I think most of us did. It's funny because I think it was being a Patriots fan myself, too. It was probably the least exciting to be in the Super Bowl because we kind of all knew what was coming. Like Seattle and Rams to me were just so good. And I don't think like any of the Patriots fans that I know of, anyways, I don't think any of us actually thought we were getting to the Super Bowl. So when we got there, it was kind of like we already kind of won the year, as funny as that may sound. But it was kind of like when I'm talking about Patriots, we're like, yeah, you know, like we'll see how this goes. Like, oh we're kind of surprised we're even in this.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

We don't have any receivers. Yeah. But that, you know what's crazy for Seattle? Big shout out to some like Seattle agents in Vegas and everything else. You gotta think, Paul Allen sells the team right now, so the team's not under Paul Allen, and he was such a big intricate part for Seattle. I mean, they lost all these people after the Super Bowl. They get to avenge their their heartbreaking loss to the Patriots for the, you know, obviously he should have ran into a Marshawn. They get all their stuff in the 49ers in, you know, with candlestick or whatever the hell they call it these days, but you know, good for them. That I I love the story of what happened. So, Seattle fans, good on to you. You beat it.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

It was good to see Sam Darnold too win one.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 27:43

I've been a Sam Darnold fan. I'm like, I mean the Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold. I have I I have Baker Mayfield, I have appreciation, and he's the first guy to actually do it, maybe since like Joe Flacco. Yeah, it's amazing. But it's like, hey, you can win Super Bowls if you build around, you have a team, and then they can be kind of what he did. You did a great job of getting a JSN and you know what I mean? It was fun to watch him. Like, I'm not I'm not a Hawks fan, yeah, but I was rooting for him because it was it was uh it was big for Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Screw them. Antonio, I mean AJ Brown, baby. AJ AJ Brown, we can just get AJ's coming, not be Antonio, just be AJ. Oh man, I'm I'll be excited. I think that that that's a huge one. I mean, if you do his off, you know, whatever his antics are as a person, what he, you know, what his backstory is, especially with mental health illness and the way that he's kind of carried that. Hey, Pete, you know, Wimby's reading books, AJ's reading books on the sidelines. I'm all for it, dude. I love it. So, you know, go patz.

SPEAKER_04 28:41

Yeah, I think I like uh what's Romeo Dobbs signing to AJ Brown. They just need that alpha receiver, and Dobbs, too. I think he's a better fan as a two version one, he's a possession guy. I like Colin Williams too. He's a fast guy, Washington State UNLV receiver. Um, so yeah, I like what they're doing. And Vabel's done a good job building the lines out, getting the defense back. And yeah, it was hard to watch those last years of Bilichek, who was just now everything at UN and C. Like, who thought that was a good idea? Like, Bilichek is a college football coach.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Well, the 26-year-old thought it was a good idea. God bless his heart. He's still trying to win it. He's still trying to win a life, I guess. God bless him.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

Well, how about knights? You got the knights on. Hey, you know, are we are we getting to the conference championship?

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yeah, but we're playing Colorado, I feel like. And you know, I don't want to get the you know, the carrot before the whatever, but not looking good. Colorado's scary, dude.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Do we get sweeped or not sweeped if we get to Colorado?

SPEAKER_01 29:41

No, I think we can pull out two games. Two games. I believe in the Knights and everything else, but like that's another thing, you know. I know we have uh whatever time, but you know, as a real big sports person, for the Knights to win in six years, uh, we don't deserve it. Yeah, I love us to death. I hope we we go the farthest, but some of some of the Knights fan are insufferable. Just like some Patriots fan are insufferable, but they don't know about you know what I mean, they don't know what they don't know. And a lot of people, this is their first scene, so for the kids they deserve it, but for some of these adults who's like to live and die from it.

SPEAKER_04 30:13

Yeah, no, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

I'm just happy to be here, guys.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

It has, I will say this, it has shifted though. Like I went to a nights game, uh gosh, a couple months ago, and like there it was like three quarters to eight percent filled. And back in the day, I mean it was sold out for like you said, like six years, something like that. So I'm happy for it, you know. Four nights go, baby. Hey, it's just something to do in May.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

It's just another reason why our clients who are not in Vegas should move to Vegas, pass all the tax and everything else. Yeah, I mean, Jesus, we got we just got a uh basketball team, a baseball team, uh the Vancouver White Caps or the MLS team instead of trying to go there. We just got a women's professional hockey team. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

What a great time to be alive. Great time to be in Vegas, right? Moved here 15 years ago. We had Unal V. And now who would have thought, and thank God for the Knights for actually starting it, because I don't think a lot of this happens if not if Knights didn't show 100% what they could do. So it's been fun. But yeah, the city's building, and yeah, it looks like we're gonna get three new franchises over the next three years, so it's gonna be fun to watch.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Yeah, and if we could just get down gas prices, I could actually drive to one of the games. There you go. Electric aircoming.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

All right, guys, we're gonna wrap this up. Jamal, thanks for being on, brother. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me, guys. You guys are looking to buy sell real estate. Hit Jamal up, guys, run next to game sales today.