Meet Shelby And Set The Vibe

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Just you and I, baby.

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What's going on, everyone? George Des here on Running Vegas. Follow, subscribe. What's the third one? Follow, subscribe. I I don't know, ask questions. I have a very special guest today. My dear friend Shelby Milburn in the house.

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Woo!

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Yes, thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here. It's been a long time coming.

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I know.

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It's between your schedule and my schedule, we can oh okay, we're here.

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Well, you're always busy. Oh yeah. Yeah, you're always busy. And then it worked out. And here we thought, guys, we were gonna be able to possibly go to happy hour after this, and we're like, you know, perfect timing. And then she's like, nope, because you're a workaround.

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I have patience. Yeah.

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You are a workaround.

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I know. I hate that word. And I don't want to admit that I am, but I kind of am.

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But you are, and it's talking about that.

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I know.

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We met a long time ago. Long time ago. A long, long time ago.

Concierge Med Spa And Patient Trust

SPEAKER_01 1:05

And now you have a place of your own, erase aesthetics. So tell me more about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Dude. So erase aesthetics is more of a concierge style med spa. So instead of pushing my patients off, go see this person and go see this person, they can do it all under one roof with me. So it's not rush, I'm not seeing as high of a volume. So I get to spend more time with my patients. So my motto is enhance, elevate, and erase. So yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

I do need to erase a little uh right here before we go into the it's been a minute. You guys, I have to admit, so I mean, I've promoted you before, and I've told many, many of my friends, yeah, um, about you, and I know they go to you because they they trust me and then they trust you. And so, guys, like this is the reason why my forehead doesn't move. It's Shelby Milburn.

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The reason I have I'm the dirty little secret.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

You are my money-making lips.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Yeah, those lips are still popping. We did those a long time ago, too.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah, guys, it's I so I want to talk. Yeah, I'm gonna be all over because I'm excited you're here. I love everything you do.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

I know.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

So um, yeah, with the lips, it used to be I used to do that very often, and now I go like once a year, and I'm good. And I'm like, it is crazy, like the upkeep. So I do want to talk about that. It's okay, well, and I'll probably jump around because I'm so excited my ADD is full of it. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Okay, so erase aesthetics, concierge service. I feel like you were always really good about feeling one-on-one. There was never a time I went into the spa and you did my lips, my botox, and I felt rushed. And I like that you are very honest in the sense that we were just talking about TikTok trends or Instagram trends or whatever that is, and I don't know what those are because I trust you 100%. And I'm like, do you think I need my lips? And you're like, we could wait a little for those, or you know, it's so where was I going with that question?

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Well, I think like your point is is like I try to create like a luxury feel for my patients, and one of the biggest complaints I heard is the last person I used to see, they didn't listen to me. They rushed me through my appointment, they did whatever they wanted, they weren't actually listening to what the patient wants and what the patient's needs. And yeah, I'm a yapper, I love to talk, but I'm also a really good listener professionally. Right. You give me some wine and get me a happy hour. I'm a yapper all day long. We're gonna happen. But yeah, yeah, but like with patients, you have to listen. If you don't listen to the patient's chief complaint and what they are looking to have done or what bothers them, and you just do whatever you want, you're never gonna see them again. They're never gonna come back to you. Yeah, and if you're not honest and you don't have integrity and you're not ethical, the patients are not gonna come back. They're not, I always say patients aren't stupid.

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Right.

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Patients are not stupid. Don't ever, ever, ever, as as if somebody who's watching this is in my industry, don't ever assume that your patient is uneducated.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Right. Because they understand the so for me, right? I I love that you do all so that way it doesn't seem like I'm throwing shade even though it is Thursday, and Thursdays throw shade Thursday. So I might be throwing a little year on. So I'm damn so it's like, so we might throw a little shade, uh, but it's okay. But I'm like, you know, you make like, for example, the lips,

Fixing Bad Filler With Anatomy

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right? And I'm like, I'm scared, I'm a guy, I want uh the Cupid's bow. I don't want a top lip that has no curvature and it's just duck lips. How much do you have to undo usually when somebody has gone to somebody else that says they're a professional, and then they come to you and you're like, This was not it? Okay, so how often does that happen?

SPEAKER_00 4:37

All the time. Okay, so I call this flooding. I tell my patients, there's no way we can't just dissolve a little here. I have to flood you out and start over because it's like trying to paint over someone else's canvas. Oh it's not gonna look like my work unless we f we flood it out, which means that we dissolve it out. You're like, I can't put my and we start over, right? Exactly. You can't really paint over someone else's canvas, and if you don't know what product is in there or what what you're working up against, then don't even try to go over it. It's not gonna sit right, it's not it's not gonna look right.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

What what are people getting wrong more? Is it like the Botox and they get the Drew PIs or they look mad or is it the fillers? What is easier to mess up in your industry?

SPEAKER_00 5:17

The number one thing that I see in this industry is mistakes anatomically. The wrong placement. So you don't understand where the anatomy actually lies. You have to be an expert in this field at facial anatomy. Right. If you don't put the product in the right plane, in the right area with the right product on the right patient, it's not gonna put be in the right place. That's when you get the complications, that's when you get the eyelitos, that's when you get the overfilling of the lips, the filler migration, the puffy look. Like, that's when you get all of that. You have to know there's so much more than just doing Botox. People look at me and they're like, oh my god, it's so easy. You just do Botox. I'm like, that's definitely not what I do.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

I am an anatomy specialist, a facial specialist. So yeah, I have to know the in and out, and you treat every patient individually, everybody is different. Male patients are gonna be different from female patients, but at the end of the day, each patient has their own unique and individual anatomy.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

So, why do you think that happens? I'm sorry, and it's not that I want to like put other people down. You're you're simply the best, so I'm like, Aww. Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do it. You're the best. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Um I think it's a lack of education, a lack of knowledge, a lack of keeping up with this industry. This industry is crazy. And changing every day. It's changing every day. There's a lot to keep up with. Yeah. And if you're not keeping up on your education, your evidence-based practice, your your techniques, your products, you're not using the best products on the market, then your patients aren't gonna get the best results.

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Yeah.

Red Flags When Choosing An Injector

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What's a big like red sign or a red red flag where when somebody is interviewing somebody like let's say somebody that's not living in Vegas? If you're in Vegas, guys, hands down, go to Shelby. Like, there's no reason to go anywhere else. But let's say if somebody's like considering fillers, Botox, or anything, we'll go through all the uh everything you do. You do that. It's like, what is a red flag when you're possibly interviewing them or asking them about products or how long they've been in the business? What would be a good thing?

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Like another injector, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Another injector. Um is that they go, I want to do this as my side gig.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

I just it's my side gig. Um, yeah, I already have a full-time job. I just want to do this to make money. I I die. And luckily I have Botox in my face, okay? Because if I didn't, I my facial expressions would give me away. Yeah. Because I just die when people say that. And like this is not a side gig. Right. This is not something you do. Oh, that's scary. And if you're in this industry just to make money, you have a rude awakening coming.

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Yeah.

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Because it is way harder than just making money. There is so much more to it.

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What is the you put in more money than you will? Filters doing it like on a side gig.

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And then it's like, you know, only this is my weekend job. Yeah.

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You know, and you're like, I'm only available after 6 p.m. after I'm like bartending.

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And see, like, as somebody who would be buying a house from you, that would scare me away. Right. Just as it should as a patient, scare you away from injector that's like, right, yeah, I just do this for fun, you know, for fun. For they're never gonna tell you they do it for just the money. Yeah. Or I just do this as on my weekend job.

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Yeah.

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Two days a week, I do this. So scary.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Yeah, and so okay, so tell us how did you get into aesthetic

How Shelby Gets Into Aesthetics

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nurse? Because I know you have a very long time, we've talked about background before you even got into the Botox and all of those things.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

I mean, I have I say I'm retired. I had a whole life as a nurse before I was a nurse practitioner, working in the ER, working trauma ICU. Um, but I was always a patient of the aesthetic field. So uh since I was in my early 20s, I just I want to age well, like that's always been important to me, taking care of my body, how I present myself, how I look, how I feel. That's all but always been important to me. So I started as a patient in my early 20s in this industry, and then every time I go there, I was so interested in what they were doing. And I wanted to try this treatment and try that treatment, and and it just kind of roped me in. I feel like it chose me.

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Yeah, I think. You know what I mean?

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It chose me. I didn't choose it.

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That's yeah, so you started in your 20s, and everybody always asks, like, when is it good? I started at 25 to get to the box.

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That's about when I started.

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Okay, and what would you say for just general, like if somebody's considering it, what do you think is the age where somebody should be like, you know what? I need a little, that way it's better than trying to undo years of because that's how I see it, uh just moving my forehead.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

So there's a misconception that you're too you're too young to do Botox at 25. We have to keep in mind that this is a preventative treatment. Everything that we do is preventative. So if you already have the static lines and you're in your late 40s, 50s, 60s, yes, we can help you. You're gonna spend more money doing laser resurfacing. There's gonna have to be a lot more investment for you to get where you want to be when you can start early, invest early, and prevent it, and then you never develop lines and wrinkles because you hit it before you even got them. Right, right, right. I think preventative is obviously what I preach to all of my patients. Now I don't want to see 18-year-olds. I typically recommend between the ages of 24, 25.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Um, I'll make exceptions for patients if there's like something to do with genetics that we need to to prevent further.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

If at 21 I wanted the lips, I probably would have. Yeah. It's like later until I got away.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

And I do get those patients, and a lot of the times they're not ready yet. Um, I uh you want to be conservative. Once you start, you got to keep it up. So yeah, 25 is usually about the age that I suggest.

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Okay.

Preventative Botox And When To Start

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What do you see as far as fillers right now? What's a trend that you see going away possibly?

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Oh my gosh, thank God, it's about time. The overfilling trend is over, the duck lips. So we're getting past that. Yeah, we're moving more towards natural Hollywood. I might always be the big list. And listen, but you have you already have naturally big lips, so for you, it can fit your face. There's so many things, like again, this goes back to anatomy. You can't give somebody massive lips who has a tiny little face and no lips. If they start out with nothing, no real estate, right? You get this. If you don't have the real estate, you're not gonna go build a mansion on you know a little tiny lot.

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An analogy. You can't.

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It's like with that, and I use that when I talk to people about lips. I'm like, we gotta work with the natural real estate of the lips.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Okay, so more natural, and what does that look like? It's like right now. It's like because I know there's so so actually run us through everything you you do. It because it it because some people don't, you guys, uh it there's a lot of uh misconception. Uh you know, I forget because I've been doing this for such a long time, but um, fillers, Botox is not the same thing. It's a lot of people are like, oh, I'm getting fillers, I'm getting Botox, and it's like, no, you don't get Botox, and they're so just not aware. But run us through what you do

Botox Vs Filler And Natural Trends

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with the difference.

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Yeah, so the difference between Botox and fillers is that Botox relaxes the muscle. Whereas filler, think about we're filling an area, we're adding volume to an area, right? Right. Um, and so that's hyaluronic acid. Whereas Botox is a uh a strain of botulism, type A, okay? Um, with peptides in it or human serum albumin. So it's mixed together. Okay. A very small, small microdose of botulism, so nothing that's gonna be toxic that's gonna harm a patient, so to speak. Right. Um, and then filler is usually hyaluronic acid, which we produce naturally in our bodies. So we just replace the natural hyaluronic that we have lost over time, whether it's aging, being on GLP1s, other weight loss modalities, having children, whatever the case may be, of why we've lost the weight, or why we've lost the fat pads and the collagen interface. That's to replace. Okay. Um, so the list of services that I do is I do all the neurotoxins. So I do Botox, Daxify, Disport, I do fillers, um, facial balancing, so lip filler, cheeks, facial balancing, temples, underneath.

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I've been considering cheeks. I know I told you.

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So listen, most people need made mid-face filler. Yeah. They do at a certain age. Those fat pads go bye-bye. Yeah, they diminish as we age. And like, especially for women, it's really depressing. So, like, and then and men too, but more so it's more rampant for us, where our maxillas recess, our mandible, our chin recesses backwards, and then our fat pads drop.

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Right.

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And they get smaller. So our good ones that we need that are in the mid face, those get smaller. Our fat pads in the lower face, our jaws, those get bigger, of course. Yeah, and our nasal labia folds. So we just get bigger as we age. It's like, come on. Yeah. So there's certain places you don't want to put filler, right? You don't want to put filler in the jaws. So that's why you need an anatomy specialist. Like I will go back to that all day long. Okay. Um, and I've been trained by like the the best anatomy specialist in the world, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

You do a lot to keep up with the trends. And it's like, yeah, and it is constantly changing. How what's something that has not changed that is always just gonna be the same no matter what?

SPEAKER_00 14:30

I think as far as yeah, just in the whole industry, I think just anti-aging in general. I feel like people just want to age well, and that's this industry is growing, it's a multi-billion dollar industry and growing. So that just shows you patients want to feel good and look good as they age. Right. Yeah, and so again, besides the Botox and the and the fillers, there's more modalities that we do these days.

Microneedling Done Right With PDGF

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Um, we do chemical peels, we do microneedling, which by the way, is like old faithful. If you're gonna do one treatment for the rest of your needling, huh? And I feel like help your collagen microneedling.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

See, I like lasers. Lasers are lasers, but is it just more resurfacing?

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Microneedling has been around forever. Okay. The evidence-based practice behind microneedling is goes back like 20 years. Okay. Further than 20 years, it goes back years and years and years. Okay. That's always going to be the best treatment.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Professional grade, though, because we were talking about this. And now, oh, let's okay, back to throw shaking cards or back to throwing. Yeah, but there's things that people are buying on Amazon or off of line.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Home microneedling kits from Amazon.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yes. Tell people about it because if you're not getting the same treatment.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

No, there's no way cat scratch, scar your face, give yourself an infection if you don't know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Right.

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And I don't even want to know where they're buying their numbing cream from.

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Yeah. I don't want to know.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Like, I'm gonna just like close my eyes. Right, right. I can't. But yeah, professional grade microneedling. Right. I use skin pen in my practice. It's a great, it's only FDA-approved microneedaline device, actually. So that just that just tells you how many microneedling devices are on the market that are not.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Okay, so so what is the difference then? It's okay, so it's FDA approved.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

They have to go through the FDA approval. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

And it it so it's so somebody that doesn't know microneedling, what what does that look like, or what does it feel like? How does one prep for that?

SPEAKER_00 16:31

It's when is the best time in the injuries to the face? So little tiny needles, they go into the dermis, into the epidermis, and they create micro injuries that it stimulates collagen, your own natural collagen. So we lose about 1% of our collagen a year after the age of 30, which is so depressing. No, yes, so the study show. I've lost 8% literally, right? Yeah, all of us. Yeah. Um, and that's probably not even added to what else we lose just running around in the heat and like stress and everything else. Yeah. So skin pen, especially, so they have a study so 400,000 percent increase in collagen after four rounds, and you do them about four to six weeks apart.

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Okay.

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And now we have PDGF, platelet drive growth factors, which remember PRP, they dry your blood, they spin it, they take the PRP and they put it on top when they microneedle or they microneedle it in. Now we have PDGF, which is a synthetic, more pure form. So think of it as a lab grown diamond versus a natural diamond. Right, okay. Natural diamond would be.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I love all these analogies because it's easy for me to understand.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Yeah. Because if I go off the deep end in my like, you know, lingo, you guys are gonna be lost.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

Right. I have no idea what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

So so platelet drive growth factors are are essentially a lab-grown diamond, but they're also 400,000 times stronger. So I just micro needled my face on Monday and it went aggressive, very aggressive, and I put that on, and the next day I looked okay. Okay. So it cuts the healing time in half. It also stimulates collagen. So that's a great combo right now.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

So after you do the four, four to six, how often do you do microneedling? Because you know what, I've never done micro leading?

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Yeah, yeah, I would say at least once a year, twice a year. Oh, that's not bad. I tell patients every six months it's a good idea, just do it every six months. Now the pens are so good, and we have things like PDGF to cut the healing time in half. So we just do it, you know? Just do it.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

So do you also do body fillers or no?

Body Treatments And Weight Loss Changes

SPEAKER_01 18:36

I do.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

I do sculpture, booty, so I do biostimulators. Yeah. I just can do a neck, a decollette. Okay. Um, I can do knees. I've done a lot of knees um or above the knees. People just get a little crepiness there. Yeah. Abdomen. There's a lot of places we can do it. Oh, really? Yeah, but yeah, so either filler or stupid, which is a biostimulator.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

It's yeah. Yeah, I lost a little weight. I was on the GLP one. I tell it's no secret. Everybody kind of knows because I the whole country's on them. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

I swear, the whole country.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

The body does change a little, um, you know, and it's like it was through well, yeah. Yeah, we won't get into it, but it was a year of a lot. I had sciatica, I have a whole bunch of things, so a lot of routine fell off, mental health went off the craziness. Uh so it okay, so then you do offer that. That's uh we we might have a whole long list of things for me to do when I get back to the race. I'm glad.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

And where is Erase located for those of you guys that don't know?

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Erase is on West Flamingo, so right located right off the freeway in Summerlin. Yeah, I'm super close. I mean, just a couple exits from you.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Okay, perfect. It's right by our office.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Um, I go to the um toasted for brunch.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Oh, I'm right across the street. Oh, I'm in the building right across the street.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Oh, okay, all right. Well then maybe I do brunch and then head over to East.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Well, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, you're right. You're right.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Okay, so what's what's next for you? What's going on with Shelby? You're you're traveling all the time. I want people to know you a little better. That's this is one portion of what you do, and you're passionate about it. Yeah. People seeing you, and you know, don't follow you on Instagram yet. Uh tell us a little bit more about you, just in general.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Uh, yeah, I mean, I've been here 21 years. I love to travel. I love to spend time with my friends and my family. Love to spend time with.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Where did you go recently? It looked beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

I was in San Diego.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

Yeah, yeah, I was in San Diego over the past weekend. But yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I feel like you're always somewhere. I'm like, I'll have to do that.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Well, a lot of the time too, I'm bouncing around doing trainings and I kind of just group it into a trip where uh where I fly somewhere to train with someone. Because even if I even if I've been doing this for for years and years and I'm an expert, I will never stop learning from other people. Because you that's a green flag, guys. You will always pick up something from somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Okay, I'm gonna go back to throw shade Thursday. I'm sorry. I I think that's why I love you. So let me tell you guys a personal story really quick. So when I started doing Botox, I went to a plastic surgeon, and his thing, and he's awesome. He he did my mom's surgery, and he is awesome at that. But the Botox wasn't all that great. It was looking like I was a little mad. Um, and he was just old school, you know, and he was really good at the surgery. I'm not saying he's bad at Botox, but it's like I know that with this, it's constantly changing in how you put it in, and even the lips weren't looking all that great. So I let everything dissolve before I started it all over again. So, yeah, uh so the never stop learning guys also know who you're going to, and that they are because you're just an injector. No, that's the wrong term, not just an injector, because in deck injecting is the thing you specialize in.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

You can now, what are the words, you can now concentrate. Concentrate on just that as opposed to doing a whole bunch of different things and trying to loot learn different techniques.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

And know that you are getting the best for that, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

So get good at what you do and go with that. Don't try to do everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

I tell injectors, don't try to get good at everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

Get good at a handful of things and really hone in on that and really get trained on that and learn and become the best at your industry in it.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Yep. And that's why that's why I love you. Oh, you know, I have a question because I feel like this is kind of new.

High Risk Areas And The Power Of No

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Um, the people are uh filler in the nose.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

So tell me about that. We've already talked about that.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

I am trained on filler in the nose. Okay. I've been trained, um, it's an extremely high risk area. Oh. So after I got trained on it, I decided, you know what, this isn't for me. It's not worth the risk for my patients going blind. So the arteries that run through the nose and down the center of the nose, it is one of the highest risk areas to inject filler. And to me, it's just not worth it. I tell my patients, I said, I will tell them to their face, I said, we are not vain enough to lose our vision for nose filler. That's just my opinion. And there are injectors out there that do great nose filler and they and they do it, and that's fine. And maybe they have an ultrasound machine and they and they're safer. I just don't think it's worth the risk. And there is no safe injection, but if you can minimize risk in certain areas, that's kind of where I that's where I live. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

That's real. I'm glad I brought that up. That's scary.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Yeah, you know, people think it's the under-eye filler that's the scariest. It's the nose.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Yeah, it's the nose. And it there again, there is no safe injection, right? That's how you gotta know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

I considered it a little bit. Remember, I I hit you up and I you're the only one I trust, so I'm like, hey, I was thinking about getting a nose job, who should I go to? And you told me somebody that's in our you know, same circle. Yeah, and which is good. But I'm like, I wonder if this is a a better alternative. But I think that the surgery's probably better if I did choose to go that job.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

That's what I think. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah, I just I always tell my patients if you if you can afford to do a rhinoplasty and you can go that route, I'd prefer to refer you out to a plastic surgeon for a rhinoplasty.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Okay. Uh okay. I'm glad we're having it. I feel like it's a little personalized consult for myself right now.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Yeah, and this is a problem with people that do it for money.

unknown 24:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Because they're putting their patients at risk for for what? Right. For greed. It's not, it's not a problem.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

And then the other person, yeah, it's like, hey, do you want to lose your vision?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah, possibly. And they sometimes the patients don't know, right? This is our job. I didn't know. This is our job to educate our patients and educate you guys on like, hey, this is why we don't do this, or this is why this isn't a good idea, or this is why I'm saying no.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Right. How much of that so how many? I went from Shelby, who are you, or like vacationing, and now I'm back to the yeah, I just can't help myself.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Well, I mean, you're so invested in this industry too. You love all of this stuff. I do. You're inquisitive, you ask great questions. I mean, you you yourself are. I think it's an art, it is an art. And aging well too. So this is interesting to you, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

What's uh something you have to say no most often to? Do you have like people that are like, is it the lips, is it the cheeks, or something that they come in and it's like you usually have to like, hey, we gotta slow it down here.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

It's lips that are already overfilled. So I won't I won't continue to fill lips if they're gonna be able to do it. They just get that filler blindness and it's not their fault, right? It's just there's so much out there on the internet, there's so much scrutiny in this world today. Like you look at Instagram, there's so much like filtered photos and things that they they it's not their fault.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

They get this just dysmorphia of how they really should look or what what looks best on them. So a lot of say no to overfilled lips. Um, a lot of say no to under-eye filler because only about 10% of patients in the population are actual candidates for under-eye filler. Oh, and patients come in, they think, oh, this is easy fix. I need under-eye filler. And I'm like, that's not you're not a candidate for that. So it just depends on the patient, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Okay, okay. Very cool. I I can't believe we're almost running out of time. Like, I know, like, I told you, I know imagine you guys, and I had 20 questions on thought, and I didn't look at this down once. Um, okay. Yeah, no, it's okay. Okay, so okay, a little bit more about your you vacation. I love that. You are a dog lover.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

You are absolutely, yeah. I work with rescues, I I love animals. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

So what's next for you? You so I know erase is pretty new.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Erase open.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Super exciting.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

So I'm gonna have to go, and is it completely done? And it's up and open? It's up and open. It's done. Yeah. Okay, so check it out. It's up and running. Yeah, check out the uh handle for that. Yeah, my booking link is live.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Yeah, I'm filling up for July, so that's great.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

I'm gonna have to go in and do um a follow Friday for my Friday. Okay, so what did before we leave, what is something you want people to know about? Something I might have forgot that's important, something fun, something professional, it could be anything. We have two minutes. I feel like this is the quickest podcast I've done.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

I know. It went by really, really, really fast.

Kindness, Skincare Basics, How To Book

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Um, I don't do what makes you happy. Yeah, yeah. I feel like since COVID, the world has been so hard. Everybody that I talk to is going through something, they're having a hard time in their life, whether it's relationships financially, um like finding their identity again. There's just so much going on. Everybody has much going on. Be kind to people, do what makes you happy. I like that. Take care of yourself, put yourself first.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Skincare. What would you recommend for skincare? We didn't talk about skin. We talked about fillers and all that.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Oh my god. Number one, if you're gonna buy one skincare product, say you can just only have one. Okay. A good cleanser. If you're not getting yeah, if you're not getting makeup off, if you're not getting sweat, dirt, bacteria off of your face, and you're not cleansing your face the right way, your skin is not going to remodel. It's not gonna age well.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Wow. You know what? I don't have a good cleanser. I don't, I I went through and now so much. Yeah. Medical grade when I say good cleanser, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Medical grade cleanser, something that somebody like me has to purchase with my license. Okay. You can't just go into a Sephora and buy it. You have to go into a professional med spa, aesthetic practice.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

We have a lot catching up to do when I go into the clinic. Yeah, we do. You know that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You never pill, so it's good. Yeah. So, um, okay, so there's the handle for at Shelbs. Uh tell them what your handle is.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Shelves M Injects and then at erase aesthetics.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

Perfect. All right. So you guys know how to contact her. We'll have the information also in the YouTube description.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Um, yeah, so I'll be there soon. We'll have to do happy hours soon.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

And I'm so excited to be here. This is so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

I'm so grateful. Like we're gonna have to do like a second part for this.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

We'll do a part two, we'll dive deep into some trends and something fun, and it's like this people getting to know you.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

I'm like, we'll do the rapid fire.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Yes, the rapid fire.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Yeah, so we'll do all of that just yeah, no, I'm I'm excited. You guys, just so you know, it's we've been trying to get together for like over a year.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

And everybody that knows me, I've said it many, many times before. Podcasting is not my thing. I uh well, it John wanted me to do it to kind of help him out. Yeah. So this is only my second time now that I've done it, I think, by myself, really. Yeah, and it's like with the interview. Thank you. And I'm like, yeah, so I'm like getting I'm getting used to it. I think I just need more people with your vibe. And I'm like, okay, we can do this.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

I mean, we vibed since day one. So that makes it so easy to sit here right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

I told literally everybody, I'm like, you need to change your injector. I found the perfect person when I haven't changed since.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

All right, guys, thank you for listening in. Shelby Melbourne, thank you again for being here. This is awesome.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

This is so much fun. We'll do it again for sure. Yeah, I would love to.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

And you guys make sure you follow and subscribe. See you guys later.